new locals

[defsrg]

does anyone know if there is an updated version of mvchannels that has the new locals on it like buffalo, vegas , etc.

thanx

[superzap]

Try running mvchannels dumpall to see if you get the channels in the output file channels.dat. I don't have access to the 119 sat so I can't try it.

[defsrg]

k zap ill try it,may take me a couple of days to post results back for everyone as time is tight over the next few days. but will definately post them for those interested.

[defsrg]

well heres the deal gang in my area i received before the 119 satellite addition the locals from pittsburgh,baltimore,wash.dc, and of course ny and la. now after running my mvchannels dumpall my new channels.dat showed the buffalo,las vegas,and newport va.locals. so i did my dumpall and reloaded to accomadate those channels but now i have to be announced on all my 101 locals i used to get guide data for with the exception of buffalo i have all the guide data for my new 119 locals though.i have read through the forum and im sure the whole changing the guide byte has worked for some but not here. i think there maybe something else here if your running from both satellites. i ahve a couple more things i am going to try today but in the mean time if anyone has any thought s or ideas please let me know. thanx:D

[Yupitsme]

I had the same thing with Detroit locals ...

I had to go into the System setup and have the Tivo remove all of the guide data. BUT you lose your Season's Passes and Wishlists (someone was making a tool to backup and restore these!?).

After some time - Tivo says an hour - HA! - your Tivo will come back up and with any luck your Locals on the 101 bird will populate.

I have had to do this twice in the last month or so. The first time I had to do it was when I re-Xtremed my machine with a new hard drive. The Detroit locals were there but the guide would not populate until I cleared the data.

The second time was just a few days ago - I "lost" my Detroit guide - I don't really know why although I suspect that a service download on Sept 4th may have changed some of the channel info? I re-did mvchannels with a new main and then re-edited the channels.dat file - I noticed that some of the numbers were different? Anyways, this time I removed the Detroit channels from channel.dat - I want to leave them alone anyways - and just have LV, PR - etc from the 119 bird moved up to the 800-900's. I cleared the data and bingo - the guide repopulated.

Maybe this will help you!?

[defsrg]

well heres the deal gang in my area i received before the 119 satellite addition the locals from pittsburgh,baltimore,wash.dc, and of course ny and la. now after running my mvchannels dumpall my new channels.dat showed the buffalo,las vegas,and newport va.locals. so i did my dumpall and reloaded to accomadate those channels but now i have to be announced on all my 101 locals i used to get guide data for with the exception of buffalo i have all the guide data for my new 119 locals though.i have read through the forum and im sure the whole changing the guide byte has worked for some but not here. i think there maybe something else here if your running from both satellites. i ahve a couple more things i am going to try today but in the mean time if anyone has any thought s or ideas please let me know. thanx
well ive done the full rest on the receiver and mvchannels and still get the same guide is popping in for the 119 sat and tba on the others.its been like 4 hours for this,perhaps i am just not waiting long enough but it would seem if the guide is filling in for the 119 locals it would be filling in on the 101 but maybe not.and for the advacates of the local bytes i set the card to wash dc and even on the 0-99 wash i get tba so i guess maybe that would be a factor only for those running locals off the 101 sat.due to the fact the 119 locals are so new to all of us i the best thing to do is to wait overnight and check in the morning,perhaps i am just being inpatient for as i recall when i first activated my service the rep from dtv told me it could be 2 days before the guide is fully set. any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. will check back with all tomorrow for update.

[Juppers]

You all may also want to update your zipcode to one matching your local market.

[defsrg]

thanx juppers
the smallest oversights can cause the biggest problems!!! not sure if it will work but changed the zip code,and if i recal when i did my first original hack in february i was running the baltimore locals and used that zip, so we will see what happens in a couple of hours.

:confused:

[defsrg]

well here it is 24 hrs later and not only do i not have guide data for the 101 locals (balt,dc) but i am also missing guide data for some of the 119 locals(hartford buffalo,grand rapids)the guide data i do receive are for the following cities pittsburgh.las vegas,newport va,and of course la. so i guess the whole 119 or 101 satellite hypothesis doesnt really hold water.i have my guide and local byte set to wash dc also along with the zip for dc. so all of this doesnt really make alot of since does it.i have tried the receiver reset as suggested,did the whole mvchannels dumpall,reset ,reload along with the original main dat.oh and btw i did the whole rc.sysinit line for the 900 remap and they have conviently gone back to the 0-99 spaces. and yes i made sure the whole rc.sysinit line is on one line( yes ive done alot of post reading).so to sum this all up i am down right confused now as before i connected to the 119 i had guides for all my 101 balt,dc and pittsburgh. so i guess ill do a little more testing the rest of the week as im on vacation(nice way to spend it i guess i really need a life lol) ill try a rset wiht a dumpall reset and just do my channels dat with my original 3 locals that i always got and see if they come in with the dual satellite.if not i guess i can put the receiver back onto the single 101 get the guide data for the 3 and then reconnect to the oval to get the others and see what happens. i hope everyone can benefit from all this,i know it seems like alot of work on my part but i just love doing this stuff its awesome. will post back with any updates and as always if anyone has any thoughts or ideas i missed please post. thanx:D

[defsrg]

oh ps btw yes i did the spending limit thing too to coincide with the city, like i said i read alot. lol

[newlooper]

I have seen this with some corrupt core files. We really can't talk about this here but you might want to look there.

[defsrg]

thanx looper if u could email me with a little more info on that subject. as for the subject at hand if some one may be able to help prove or disprove this hypothesis. could it be the actual directivo guide data only has the ability to hold the guide data for the major networks,ny and la, your major spotbeam city,in my case pittsburgh, and then 2 additional cities? for my theory is the first set of locals i ran off the 101 sat i got pittsburgh.baltimore and dc. now since the addtion of my 119 i get pittsburgh,newport va, and las vegas guide data. if anyone gets more local guide data on theirs besides the major,ny and la, and then more than 3 additional city guide data, please post as that would solve that speculation and we could move on to something else. the weather here in my neck of the woods is pretty crappy today so i dont think i can get up on my roof and switch to just the 101 sat as per my previous post. but we'll see and again thanx for all the input to try to help solve this mystery for everyone.:D

[Will]

>> if anyone gets more local guide data on theirs besides the major,ny and la, and then more than 3 additional city guide data, please post as that would solve that speculation and we could move on to something else.<<

According to my notes, at one point I had Home, National LA & NY, and 3 other cities, PLUS the remainder of NY from the spot beam and channel 5 from LA.

101 vs 119 is irrelevant. Mapping to the same channel #s in the 2-69 range is not relevant. Locals byte is not relevant. Zip code is not relevant. I'm thinking now it's the guide byte, maybe some magic number that corresponds to the transponders involved. But there are I believe only 6 usable bits (since one bit is unused and in this theory I'm throwing out the engineering bit). Maybe that's the limitation, 6 transponders?

[defsrg]

i have to agree will. i am starting to believe that there is just a limit on how much guidedata for locals that can be transmitted.

[Will]

>> channel 5 from LA <<

Also channel 9 from LA, another non-380s LA station.

[defsrg]

the la 5 and 9 you can get will no matter what as the directivo is like a 4th generation directv receiver which we wont discuss here,but anyways i dont think those channels play a part in this.i am doing another dumpall to see what iget as far as channel mapping and will post back shortly.:D

[defsrg]

sorry it took so long to postback but the site must have been real busy.must be everyone is following this saga, just kidding. heres a real twist for you all that are interested, i did a program reset on the receiver, then when completed i did the whole mvchannels dumpall, reload etc etc. now i had the byte on the card set to hartford conneticut area. had the zip on the machine set to hart. conn also. i edited my channels.dat file only to include the cities of knoxville,oklahoma,providence and of course hartford conn(for those of u following this thread these are all 119 sat locals) plugged the tivo back in and behold had guide data for all channels except for hartford the one location i had the local and guide byte set for and what else popped in but the washington dc locals which i had not programmed in at all. go figure.now before all the skeptics read this. yes i completely deleted the old channels dat ,mvchannels,and main files before i did a reset on the receiver and the new reload of channels and mvchannels.so the chances of dc still hanging around in an old file is slim to none.now my first question to the experts that have been doing this longer than me, what exactly does the main.dat file do that u need to use a fresh one to reload? to be quite honest with u it contains no info on the new locals nor does the one that i dump back out after it s been in there a while.and when i did this new reset i didnt even use the main to run this batch and all the channels still came in, so i dont see its purpose,if some one could tell me that would be great as it might help with this mystery. now my hypothesis for u avid readers of this thread is that for any loclas to come in u need to have one of the citites from ur area spotbeam in order to accomplish that, that being from the 101 sat. i am doing anothe reset now with the remainder of the new locals to see if dc pitts or balt happen to pop in again on this try when they are not going to be programmed in again. i hope everyone is benefitting from this or at least having fun cuz its fun for me or else i wouldnt be doing all this. so as always any input or answers are always welcome and thanx ahead of time for them.
:D

[Will]

>>i did a program reset on the receiver, then when completed i did the whole mvchannels dumpall, reload etc etc. now i had the byte on the card set to hartford conneticut area. had the zip on the machine set to hart. conn also.<<

Not useful at all for getting Hartford.

>>i edited my channels.dat file only to include the cities of knoxville,oklahoma,providence and of course hartford conn(for those of u following this thread these are all 119 sat locals) plugged the tivo back in and behold had guide data for all channels except for hartford the one location i had the local and guide byte set for and what else popped in but the washington dc locals which i had not programmed in at all. go figure.<<

>> now before all the skeptics read this. yes i completely deleted the old channels dat ,mvchannels,and main files before i did a reset on the receiver and the new reload of channels and mvchannels.so the chances of dc still hanging around in an old file is slim to none.<<

The reset (clearing all guide data and wishlists) clears all EXCEPT the last "home" set of locals. If you clear at this point you will still get HARTFORD, including the guide, even though you don't get the Harford guide now

[defsrg]

ok check these files out the first is the original channels.dat i put in after i reset dumpall etc. the second is what spit back out after a second dumpall. can someone explain how that little list turned into a big list??:confused:

[defsrg]

heres the original channels.dat ,i didnt know u couldnt attach 2 files on the same post sorry

[defsrg]

in reply to will's last post hartford wasnt what popped up it was washington dc that wasnt even included in that paticular channels dat any other ideas as i just did another whole reset and dc popped up again???????this is wacky but its fun

[defsrg]

k heres the deal gang i am running about 32 local channels total. that seems to be about the max u can program for for now without getting the dreaded to be announced.they all dont have to be from the same market u can mix and match if u like as i have done.thats about it for now if i come across anything new or if anyone else does on this subject please post here.

thanx:D

[Will]

>> i am running about 32 local channels total. that seems to be about the max u can program for for now without getting the dreaded to be announced. <<

One of the CCC guys said in alt.dss.hack yesterday that only DTivo scripts written pre-spotbeam have the "To Be Announced" problem, and that if you have a proper script you will not have the problem at all. Further he says that you WILL have the problem of local channels reporting "Not available in this area" if you try to get "the wrong locals", whatever that means, and that this is unavoidable.

It's hard to dismiss this, as CCC put together among the first hacks for DTivo for selling their own hacked DTivo receiver, and should know what they're doing.

I personally DON'T have the "Not available in this area" problem, but I do have the "To Be Announced" problem if I try to get much past 5-6 cities worth of locals. I'm running mvchannels.tcl v 1.35.

Here on this forum there are a small number of people reporting the TBA problem, and lots of people saying the solution is easy, but not much in the way of specifics (and what specifics they do offer, bringing up one market at a time for example, a popular "solution", seems not to work at all).

Maybe it's just you and me having trouble, and we're talking to each other while everybody else in the world gets the guide for 100 cities or so, just fine. Very confusing.

[superzap]

This thread might help
http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12639

[Will]

>> This thread might help <<

Thanks. The old "clean everything out, including using the Tivo command to clear all guide and wishlist data, then add one city at a time waiting for the guide to fill in for that city."

I'm glad it works for everybody else. It does not work for me. The FIRST city follows the rules. When I add an additional city usually some OTHER city comes up, sometimes with/sometimes without the guide data. For some the To Be Announced never fills in no matter how long I wait. Some do. When I'm all done I have 6-7 cities with data and all the rest are To Be Announced (though the PROGRAMMING is there for all of them). Done it multiple times with the same result.