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Hi8
10-03-2002, 05:15 PM
I'm wondering if anyone can help...

I've used the "fake-out" to burn a DVD with DVDPatcher & Spruce Up.

Playing on my Apex1100w it displays on a TV monitor fine, but playing it on my Sony S7700S I get a splitscreen image, but plays fine other than that!

here is a picture splitscreen photo (http://www.mpython.com/images/splitscreen.jpg)

is this because of the fake out?

scarabus
10-03-2002, 05:30 PM
Patching the header does not produce a compliant DVD.
Many players will play it OK, but some won't.
It looks like your Sony is one that won't.

Options?

Use the APEX, not the Sony for these disks. Just use the Sony for real DVDs.
Replace the Sony with a newer one that can handle these disks (my 530 can)
Transcode the video to true 720x480 (takes time, affects size and quality)
Put a strip of paper down the side of your TV (No? Oh well, worth a try.)

Nuke2000
10-03-2002, 06:02 PM
change the setting in the dvd play to pan and scan i think thats it also don't use Spruce Up.

go to http://www.fukrulez.com/index2.php and d/l DVD Maestro

now that i think of it i think Spruce Up and DVD Maestro are the same i don't remeber

also read this

http://doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/svcd2dvdr.htm

might help you

Hi8
10-03-2002, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Nuke2000
change the setting in the dvd play to pan and scan i think thats it also don't use Spruce Up.

go to http://www.fukrulez.com/index2.php and d/l DVD Maestro

now that i think of it i think Spruce Up and DVD Maestro are the same i don't remeber

also read this

http://doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/svcd2dvdr.htm

might help you

pan & scan ? on a sony s7700 ? I dont'd think so.

Nuke2000
10-03-2002, 07:38 PM
works on my dvd play i use DVD Maestro and patch the header of the svcd file to 720x480 load it in DVD Maestro the save exit. then patch the hearder back to 480x480 and then load the save file. change it to pan and scan in DVD Maestro make the vob file burn to dvd-r and then change to pan and scan on my dvd player and it works. you can try 16:9 and see if thats works.

whats worn with pan and scan if you don't want that the encode vidoe to 720x480 but that takes a lot longer and ever time you re encode a video you loss quoitly

captain_video
10-03-2002, 07:54 PM
The probelms are related to the DVD set top players and have nothing to do with either of the software authoring packages. Both DVD Maestro and SpruceUp were developed by Spruce Technologies and share most of the same attributes when it comes to authoring. Maestro is a more professional version whereas SpruceUp is a no frills basic package. Older DVD players are not compliant with DVD-Rs and DVD-RWs. Most older machines won't even recognize them (my Toshiba SD2108 just choked when I tried to play them whereas my new Sony DVP-NS715P plays them beautifully). The Apex players and many of the other players of Chinese origin will play virtually every type of DVD known to man. It's ironic that the low-end players are more compatible than many of the high-end units. However, most of the current crop of DVD players from all of the mainstream manufacturers will play DVD-Rs and DVD-RWs just fine. The problem you are seeing with the Sony 7700 is due to the oddball resolution presented by a TyDVD (480X480) as opposed to a true DVD-compliant format (720X480). The fakeout method of patching the 1st header to 720X480 is only used to generate the preview files in both Maestro and SpruceUp. If you did it correctly you should have patched it back to 480X480 after it was initially imported into either authoring program.

laserfan
10-03-2002, 08:09 PM
Hi8 you should try (assuming you have an SA Tivo) the 352x480 resolution (setting 1 IIRC). This is DVD-compliant, imports directly to SpruceUp, and IMO looks as good and perhaps better as you can apply more bandwidth to the image being processed (i.e. the potential for less blockiness & fewer artifacts).

Of course maybe you are burning to CD and want SVCD-compliance but I think you should try this in your Sony anyway. It's my normal setting (High quality) that I use for everything that I intend to save.

Edit: Oops, sorry, I'm in the wrong place here--your Sonys must be DTivos. "Never mind"--it's been a really long & hard day!

BubbleLamp
10-03-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by captain_video
The Apex players and many of the other players of Chinese origin will play virtually every type of DVD known to man. It's ironic that the low-end players are more compatible than many of the high-end units. That's because they use PC-type DVD transports.

falderal
05-23-2003, 08:33 PM
Has anyone else found a solution to this problem? I tried using DVD Maestro and chose the "force pan and scan" option and then set my DVD player to pan and scan mode but it still plays squished on my pioneer set top.

There's a program called SVCD2DVDMPG+ that can almost fix it for me. The video is pushed slightly off the left side of the screen and wraps around to the right. The author did this by modifying the SDE (Sequence Display Extension) information in the file that apparently DVD players are supposed to ignore but some old players are reading it.

-falderal

SVCD2DVDMPG+ (http://www.svcd2dvdmpg.com)