Fugg
01-18-2003, 03:16 PM
This ends up being a question about codecs, but let me start with a little background...
When I captured mpeg's in my pre tivo extraction days, I always use to use womble to do my editing. Frame accurate n' all, worked great.
Then came tivo, then dtivo extraction.
I fought long and hard to be able to find a codec for win32 that would allow me to be able to edit in tmpgenc at least(cut @ gop's), womble at best(frame accurate).
When I used womble, I would loose sync right at the getgo, from square one, no matter what I did or which codec I used.
When I used tmpgenc's "merge and cut", It was working on about 50% of my files.
Then I happened to do a fresh install and loaded just windvd3 as a player, no other codecs.
BOOM! From that point on, as long as I was using windvd3 or 4 on the system, tmpgenc started working like a charm. Edited files came out with the sync they came in with. It worked like a charm with one caveat.
You had to "play into" the point where you wanted to make the cut.
i.e., drag the slider to the point just before the point where you wanted to make the cut, hit play and hit pause when you got to the cut point. The problem came in when you hit play. The elapsed time counter at the bottom left of the screen would advance, but the video was frozen on the spot where you dropped the slider and you would not get any audio. After a few moments(5 to 120sec.), it seemed as if it "caught up" to the video and would begin to play the video and audio in sync, allowing you to make a gop accurate cut.
I pretty much resigned myself to accepting this as the cost of being able to edit a tivo file.
Then I read the other day a post from olaf pointing out "Moonlight MPEG Stream Explorer", which came with the elecard codec. I installed this dude and played with it a little, not considering that it loaded the elecard codec on the system.
Later, I cranked tmpgenc and started editing a few vids.
Even though the files it made did not hold sync after the first cut, I no longer had to wait for it to "catch up" while making the edits. It was sweet till I realized that the resulting files were hosed.
So I "un-registered" the elecard codec and all was well again with retaining sync on my files, but I have to wait for it to "catch up" again during the editing.
I know it may be a small price to pay, but still I have to wonder, and I'm finally getting to my question:
Is there a win32 codec out there somewhere that will work with tmpgenc like the elecard codec but allow me to maintain sync during editing like the windvd codec?
whadoyathink?
i know jdiner's comming out with a editor, but....
When I captured mpeg's in my pre tivo extraction days, I always use to use womble to do my editing. Frame accurate n' all, worked great.
Then came tivo, then dtivo extraction.
I fought long and hard to be able to find a codec for win32 that would allow me to be able to edit in tmpgenc at least(cut @ gop's), womble at best(frame accurate).
When I used womble, I would loose sync right at the getgo, from square one, no matter what I did or which codec I used.
When I used tmpgenc's "merge and cut", It was working on about 50% of my files.
Then I happened to do a fresh install and loaded just windvd3 as a player, no other codecs.
BOOM! From that point on, as long as I was using windvd3 or 4 on the system, tmpgenc started working like a charm. Edited files came out with the sync they came in with. It worked like a charm with one caveat.
You had to "play into" the point where you wanted to make the cut.
i.e., drag the slider to the point just before the point where you wanted to make the cut, hit play and hit pause when you got to the cut point. The problem came in when you hit play. The elapsed time counter at the bottom left of the screen would advance, but the video was frozen on the spot where you dropped the slider and you would not get any audio. After a few moments(5 to 120sec.), it seemed as if it "caught up" to the video and would begin to play the video and audio in sync, allowing you to make a gop accurate cut.
I pretty much resigned myself to accepting this as the cost of being able to edit a tivo file.
Then I read the other day a post from olaf pointing out "Moonlight MPEG Stream Explorer", which came with the elecard codec. I installed this dude and played with it a little, not considering that it loaded the elecard codec on the system.
Later, I cranked tmpgenc and started editing a few vids.
Even though the files it made did not hold sync after the first cut, I no longer had to wait for it to "catch up" while making the edits. It was sweet till I realized that the resulting files were hosed.
So I "un-registered" the elecard codec and all was well again with retaining sync on my files, but I have to wait for it to "catch up" again during the editing.
I know it may be a small price to pay, but still I have to wonder, and I'm finally getting to my question:
Is there a win32 codec out there somewhere that will work with tmpgenc like the elecard codec but allow me to maintain sync during editing like the windvd codec?
whadoyathink?
i know jdiner's comming out with a editor, but....