Local channels not showing

[jahmon]

Is it just me that's not receiving any local channels (the guide or the video) on my tivo guide screen? What's going on? The card is, for all intents and purposes, a legit subbed HU (with legit locals subscription). The locals show up fine in my other non-TIVO receiver. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there some hack to be installed in order to get these locals to show up in your tivo guide?

Thx

JM

[captain_video]

If you have a legit sub then the locals should be showing up. I am assuming that your DTivo is not modified since you didn't imply that it was. You can always run mvchannels to get them to show up.

[jahmon]

Originally posted by captain_video
If you have a legit sub then the locals should be showing up. I am assuming that your DTivo is not modified since you didn't imply that it was. You can always run mvchannels to get them to show up.

Yes it is a legit sub and the card (if placed in another receiver) shows locals properly. The dtivo is modified with xtreme 2.5.1. Is that the problem?

[BubbleLamp]

Legit locals can take 12-24 hours to show up correctly.

[jahmon]

Originally posted by BubbleLamp
Legit locals can take 12-24 hours to show up correctly.

Did no know that. I guess I'll wait another day or so for them to show up.

[TomServo]

No, it's not like that. I am having the exact same problem.

I have a legit card and locals sub, and for whatever reason, they just started dropping off right around superbowl sunday. Occasionally, if I reboot, they come back. Then a few hours later they disappear again. I called DTV and they said it was a hardware problem and tried to charge me for a warranty. Here are some bullet points of stuff I've tried:

1. Upgraded to 3.1
2. Completely scrubbed and reloaded 2.5.2 from mfs
3. Added KrAVeN's update
4. selectlocals.tcl
5. Custom channels.dat for mvchannels
6. Reran satellie setup since my locals are on the 119 bird (Las Vegas)
7. Ran the mvc from inside xPlusz
8. Tried mvc 1.35 and 1.36
9. mvchannels reset

Here are some clues;

If I do a dumpall, the locals are listed in the channels.dat file, even with a '1' at the end:

LV3:3:910:38549:1028:1
LV5:5:911:38549:1029:1
LV8:8:912:38549:1030:1
LV10:10:913:38549:1031:1

BUT - there is another group of locals listed by call letters like this:

KINC:15:15:38549:1037:0
KLAS:8:8:38549:1040:0
KLVX:10:10:38549:1041:0
KTNV:13:13:38549:1045:0
--snip--

These are the call letters for the Las Vegas stations. Also, there is:

LILS:90:90:38549:44:0
LILS:90:90:38549:698:1
LILS:90:90:38549:880:0
LILS:90:90:38549:881:0

What the heck is LILS? I've never seen this one before, but channel 90 does show up in the guide, although there is no picture there.

I am absolutely stumped. I plan on keeping at it, but if anyone has any input or suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm happy to try any sort of troubleshooting you can think of. Anyone know where I can get a virgin image? I want to try that next to see if it is xtreme-related.

Thanks.
Tom.

[jmayes]

Using Xtreme 251 and p4-legit subbed card. Local channels just went by-by, no guide data or video, just "Channel not avl" if you direct dial them.

They also do not show up in the setup screens either. I double checked sat setup since mine are on the 119 bird too, everything is honky-dory.

Called Dave and they hit the card, turned it on, off and on, still no locals, did a complete reboot too, no joy. They want to replace the card and charge me, I don't think so!

Up until now They have worked great, I really don't want to start over, Thankx for any help someone can provide.

Jmayes

[slipstream]

I have to agree! I came home last night to find out that my locals are also gone. I am using Extreme 2.5 and a Legal P4 Sub.

My SA Tivo in the other room is working fine. Same sub, but with an HU. Locals come in fine on that sat box. So I know my SUB is fine...

If I use a clone of the HU in the DTivo, then it still does not show locals. So I know that it's not a problem with the SUB or the settings on the card.

Could they SOMEHOW be disabling the locals if the DTIVO is not on 3.x? That seems unlikely... But, I can't explain it any other way.

Anyone else seeing this same thing on 2.5 ?

-slipstream

[TomServo]

Could they SOMEHOW be disabling the locals if the DTIVO is not on 3.x?

I think you are really, really close on that guess. Everyone I've spoken to with this problem is still on xtreme 2.5 or 2.5.2

Last night I upgraded to 3.1 and did a quick #60,43 on xPlusz and I managed to get them back. They've been back for a day, so I've got my fingers crossed. Like I said, I've been fighting this since Super Bowl Sunday.

The weird thing is, it's only affecting Las Vegas. I have to think that Dave is doing some sort of experiment with this market.

Tom

[slipstream]

ok... That sorta makes sense, but HOW???

How can he be checking for 3.1? Could it be some sorta of hash? Since my card is Legit, it should pass all hashes fine.

I even used mvchannels to put the channels back in the guide, but I get the "Channel not Available" message if I change to them. But it works fine on my other receivers. (Non DTivos)

If it is happening, I would love to find out how. I would like to figure out a work-around to this and still be on 2.5.01-1.xxx

-slipstream

[superzap]

It's happening for me also on v3.1.0. They don't seem to be sending the packets that activate the locals anymore. Too busy lately with other troublesome packets I guess.

[jahmon]

OK, I got my locals now. Took a while but they are there. I didn't change anything; still on xtreme 2.5.1.

[jmayes]

Still no-joy here, sticking with 2.51 but really want those locals back! If anyone can get to the botom of this I am sure SUPERZAP CAN!

Just FYI, it seems like dtivo has reverted to the exact state it was in before I subscribed to the locals, I have only had locals for a month and after the sub was turned on they just apeared in the menus, now they are not there just like before I subscribed.

Since 3.1 does it too it really confuses me as to what is going on.

Thankx all!
Jmayes

[jahmon]

I'm still using xtreme 2.5.1 mainly because I don't have a long enough bash cable and am too lazy to take out the HD and plop it in my PC. Is it worth it doing kraven's upgrade? Also is it worth upgrading to 3.1? Will my HU work in 3.1?

[rearviewmirror]

Now we are having the same problem in Austin TX. It strange it could only affect 1 kind of IRD, the others (non-TiVo) in the house are fine, but my 2.5.0.1 Sat 60 hasn't locals since Wed.

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21699

[jahmon]

Just to clarify, you guys that aren't getting locals, are these legit subbed locals, aka, is it 'hacked onto the card' or is it the original (or clone) of the regular card? Mine is a clone.

[jmayes]

I am Legit, paying for everything, but using fix-sub for no-phone line. See the other thread, seems that DTIVOS not using fix-sub are WORKING. Perhaps this is some kind of STING?

Jmayes

[jahmon]

Originally posted by jmayes
I am Legit, paying for everything, but using fix-sub for no-phone line. See the other thread, seems that DTIVOS not using fix-sub are WORKING. Perhaps this is some kind of STING?

Jmayes

I'm using the subtest hack (I also have a legit tivo lifetime sub) and I'm fine. So that theory doesn't seem right.

[jmayes]

Dave still wants your phone plugged in so they can spy on you. It seems that people that are using their phone line are not having troble.

Jmayes

[captain_video]

Both my DSR-6000's are at 2.5.01 and neither one is plugged into a phone line and haven't been since 2.5Xtreme was installed. I run mvchannels on both units because I go back and forth between legit P4 cards and Hu test cards when there's a PPV I want to record. I've never had a problem with the locals dropping off. Running mvchannels couldn't hurt and it only has to be run once if you want the locals to show up in the 0-99s.

[Ump25]

captain, i'm running mvchannels as well, but my Las Vegas and Knoxville locals completely disappeared earlier in the week. Don't ask me how or why; they just did. So far, I've been unable to bring them back.:mad:

[captain_video]

I keep seeing numerous posts about Las Vegas locals disappearing lately. Sounds like trying to get them is a real crapshoot (sorry, couldn't resist). I am assuming that you had everything working at some point. Have you tried running mvchannels.tcl manually from a bash prompt (probably a dumb question on my part but I gad to ask)? You might want to try reloading the channels as follows:

cd /var/hack (or wherever you've got it installed)
./mvchannels.tcl reload
./mvchannels.tcl -file=/var/hack/channels.dat

This should get them to show up in the 0-99s (no looping or editing of rc.sysinit necessary). If that doesn't work I'd try reinstalling everything from scratch. Make sure you save your channels.dat file in Unix format using TextPad or DOS2UNIX.

[Ump25]

Personally, captain, I have a few cities in the 02-99 range, with most of the rest of them in the 900's. To make it easier for me, when using mvchannels, I put my own locals and my other spot beam locals, in the 02-99 range. All the 119 locals I put into the 900's. This helps me to remember which city is where, for the most part.

What's been happening lately with my mvchannels is that once it's running, some of the 119 ones automatically move to the 02-69 range within a few hours, while the others remain in the 900's. Furthermore, some 119 cities have a few of their channels go to the 02-69 range while others remain in the 900's. For example: Half of my Jacksonville channels move to the lower range while the other half remain in the 900's.

Meanwhile, Las Vegas and Knoxville are still missing altogether.

[start101]

just thought i`d share whats happening with me

i`m in canada ...so obviously i`m not legit

been running 2.5.2 for many months now
my locals haven`t had any trouble
the only thing i noticed lately was the other day i had nashville show up in the guide ,and its way out of my spot beem area

[viden]

We are now having the same problem in Columbus, Ohio. I am getting channel data for my locals, but the channel is showing "Channel not available" on the screen. I am on 2.5.2, with the Kraven update. It has been like 3 days now and still no locals. I am also using the NOPHONE option, so the DirecTivo has not dial out or anything in a few days. I am using a legal P4 card that I am paying for and seems to work fine in another reciever. Any ideas?

[Barberb12]

I am using xtreme 2.5.1. with a drd6000 DTiVo. with a clone HU. Can anyone tell me if upgrading to 2.5.2 will fix my loss of Greensboro locals that are subbed? Also will 3.1 work with an HU? and can you hack the lifetime sub with 3.1?

[Alpine357]

Everyone is losing locals and noone knows why. My wife just loves her local channels. This sucks.

I am in the midwest and also have had no locals on my sub for a couple weeks now. Must be going nationwide. All my other receivers work great. I miss my Tivo Local:(

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by rc3105
make sure your tivo is at 2.5.2 or later (an upgrade from 2.5.01 or 2.5.1 is another topic, plenty of threads on that allready)

use midupdate.tcl to set your market id to 0

reboot

clear your program guide & todo list (won't erase shows)

reboot

use midupdate.tcl to set your market id correctly

reboot

locals should return - has worked on serveral tivos here and they came back in seconds (check to make sure you don't have mvchannels or xplusz or anything else mucking with the channel listings)

--
Riley

I'd love to see someone with the locals problem follow these steps but WITHOUT going to 2.5.2 and see if it works. Sorry, I remain unconvinced it has anything to do with 2.5.01.

[viden]

Just so you know ... i did follow the instructions to the letter and until i upgraded to 2.5.2 no local channels worked.

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by viden
Just so you know ... i did follow the instructions to the letter and until i upgraded to 2.5.2 no local channels worked.

Ok, thanks. Guess I've just been lucky. ;)

[captain_video]

I also lost my locals the other day. Both my DTivos were at 2.5.01 with P4 cards and legit subs. I tried rebooting and generally farting around with them but nothing was getting them back. They wouldn't even show up with my hacked Hu card. The channels completely disappeared from the guide and indicate Channel not available if I tune to any of them. All other subbed channels remain unaffected.

There is a long thread on this topic in the main DTivo hacking forum, so a lot of people are in the same boat. I got fed up and called DTV about it. They tried resending the authorization packet to my receivers but no dice. The CSR also tried to deauthorize my cards and then reactivate them along with a reboot with no luck. She finally decided to send me two new access cards and they arrived on Friday.

I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to 2.5.2 with Superzap's upgrade. After having a multitude of problems, all of which were my own stupid fault, the upgrade was successful and I was finally able to get a static IP set up. The 2nd DTivo upgrade went much smoother. I also did a Clear Program Data and To Do List which took about an hour. I didn't lose any of my recordings and all of the files I uploaded to the DTivo for extracting ty files remained intact so I don't have to reinstall anything to get back to where I was. The guide populated with my local channels without having to run midupdate.tcl. The only thing I ran was the xPlusz command for ADDLOCS but I didn't have to specify a market ID.

I highly recommend using the boot CD to install the upgrade. It literally takes only a few seconds to install the files from the CD vs. about 30 minutes to do the transfer via serial connection. It does involve placing the Tivo drives in your PC but it is wise to do a backup anyway so you can kill two birds with one stone. Do the backup with the MFS Tools boot CD, swap CDs, and then do the upgrade. Quick and painless. Reinstall the drives and let it go through the upgrade.

One thing I did notice was that the Acquiring satellite signal screen hung up when it reached 100%. Pressing the Tivo button got me out of the screen without a problem. Perform a Clear Program Data & To Do List from the System Reset menu. I actually set up all of my xPlusz commands prior to doing the reset so everything was already set up and running when the Clear Program Data & To Do List was completed since the DTivo reboots just prior to clearing the data. Keep in mind that your To Do list and Season Passes all go away as a result of clearing the data. All setups and preferences remain intact and your recordings are also retained. Just make sure that noscramble is reactivated via xPlusz or you won't be able to watch any of them.

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by captain_video
I highly recommend using the boot CD to install the upgrade. It literally takes only a few seconds to install the files from the CD vs. about 30 minutes to do the transfer via serial connection.


You realize you could have just transferred the file via ftp, right? :eek:

[captain_video]

Yes, but I'd still have to use winimage to split it out from the original iso image. I haven't used winimage in quite a while so I figured it was just as easy to install from the CD than trying to figure out how to extract the files. It was just as easy to burn it to CD and install the program at the same time I performed the backup since I already had everything set up in the PC.