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osetivo
06-06-2003, 02:27 AM
For the last couple of days I've been thinking about putting together a HTPC. So I started looking and found myHTPC.net (http://www.myhtpc.net/) Anyway, I ended up spending the day playing with it and am very impressed. I saw a few familiar names over there, but don't see any discussion here.

A couple of possibilities interest me.

1. A myHTPCA plugin to open/view/select Tivo Listings and stream from TiVo to PC/TV using mplayer. Linux has MythTV, and XBox has (will have) XBMP. The PC needs a nice front end too.

2. As a nice PC/TV front end for all those wonderful MPEGs I am now creating from TiVo.

3. TiVo Video player for PC with integrated DTivo remote control.

I watch TiVo on PC (a good bit) via ATI AIW Pro with a long s-video cable from tivo. My remote doesn't work from 2nd room (extenders sort of work) so I use TIVORemote which uses sendkey via TivoWeb(It all works, just not elegant) With sendkey integrated in myHTPC the keyboard (as well as my ATI RF Remote Wonder) could be used to navigate and control the GUI (away from the Tivo)

4. myHTPC uses a nice onscreen TV guide based upon XMLTV (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmltv/) which could also be used to select programs to watch/record. (albeit redundant if you have oncreen control of the TiVo GUI via the myHTPC interface)

Lots of other interesting features. Thoughts?

Torg
06-06-2003, 09:40 AM
Yes you have decribed TivoWeb and mplayer. As for a GUI there is
* KMplayer (http://www.xs4all.nl/~jjvrieze/kmplayer.html)
KDE MPlayer frontend
* KPlayer (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kplayer/)
KDE MPlayer frontend
* KumaPlayer (http://kmp.sourceforge.net)
KDE MPlayer frontend
* KMencoder (http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/kmencoder/)
KDE MEncoder frontend
* GMencoder (http://gmencoder.sourceforge.net/)
GNOME MEncoder frontend
* AcidRip (http://acidrip.thirtythreeandathird.net)
DVD ripper frontend for MEncoder
* MPlayerOSX/GUI (http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/)
OSX port and GUI
* Plugger (http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger.html)
Netscape/Mozilla Plugin to play movies with MPlayer
* wftv (http://www.webfreetv.com/linux)
Mozilla Plugin
* mplayerplug-in (http://mplayerplug-in.sourecforge.net/)
Plugin for Netscape, Mozilla and Konqueror with Mini GUI!
* namp (http://j.a.l.free.fr/namp/index.html)
GTK2 frontend
* GtkPlayer (http://gtkplayerembed.sf.net)
GTK Widget using MPlayer to play movies
* Lumiere (http://www.nongnu.org/lumiere)
GNOME frontend to MPlayer
* xmms-embedded (http://xmms-embedded.sourceforge.net/)
MPlayer plugin for XMMS on Zaurus
* MPEG Menu System Version 2 (http://mms.sunsite.dk/)
A Menu system for the DXR3 and framebuffer cards for controlling audio and movies

(I took these from mplayerhq)

cwingert
06-06-2003, 09:40 AM
Umm, been there, done that.

http://www.mythtv.org

http://tivo-mplayer.sf.net/mythtivo.html

Torg
06-06-2003, 09:47 AM
I belive you meant:


http://tivo-mplayer.sf.net/mythtivo.html

not


http://tivo-mplayer.sf.net/mythtv.html

strange, when I hit reply the linnk comes out ok. But if I look at the raw source of the origional page it is wrong. vBulletin, bug?

osetivo
06-06-2003, 10:26 AM
Yea, I new I would get repsonses like this. IIFC, MythTV is linux ONLY, and I am one of those windows "whiners" as cwingert likes to call us. :)

No offense to TivoWeb, GREAT Program, but IMO not an elegant inteface on PC/TV Screen and a performance is a bit sluggish for me.



EDIT: I'm looking for an nice looking "Whole Package" HTPC frontend to be viewed on TV/PC. I know it CAN be done with Tivo, I just don't think it's realisitic to have TiVo/TivoWeb doing MP3, Photos, video, weather, mail, etc.

Just trying to generate some discussion on feasibility and interest.

cwingert
06-06-2003, 10:28 AM
Are you saying you want a Windows PVR (like SnapStream) or are you saying you want to program the TiVo without the TiVo interface?



Originally posted by osetivo
Yea, I new I would get repsonses like this. IIFC, MythTV is linux ONLY, and I am one of those windows "whiners" as cwingert likes to call us. :)

I'm looking for an nice looking HTPC frontend to be viewed on TV/PC.

No offense to TivoWeb, GREAT Program, but IMO not an elegant inteface on PC/TV Screen and a performance is a bit sluggish for me.

osetivo
06-06-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by cwingert
Are you saying you want a Windows PVR (like SnapStream) or are you saying you want to program the TiVo without the TiVo interface? No, I haven't lost my mind. :) DTiVo is a PVR with a great inteface. I don't want to replace Tivo UI or its functions, They are all VERY nice and elegant. I want to integrate the controls of the tivo UI into myHTPC, which has many other cool uses and looks really nice on screen PC or TV.

I don't know how many people watch TiVo on PC, but I do, via my ATI 9700 AIW card and a 50ft s-video cable, but Tivo is to far for its remote to work (IR extenders help a little if I hold my tongue just right) :p

MyHTPC viewer can display a Tivo feed from the s-video-in on my card. But I still need to control UI. I currently use TIVOremote, a really nice little VB app bbz wrote, to control GUI. It uses Sendkey via TivoWeb. Tivoweb GUI, is very cool, but it's too much clutter, and TIVOremote must be the active app to respond to keyboard or remote control button clicks. myHTPC could be programmed to use sendkey to tivoweb via keyboard or I could use my ATI RF Remote Wonder.

myHTPC has an elegant DTV program guide which when clicked could ALSO "sendkey" to tivo. (as I stated this is a bit redundant)

Like I said I just started trying to put all the pieces together for a HTPC and it gets a little circular and confusing (at least to me)

I threw in the mplayer frontend as bait to generate some discussion for the ppl looking for a PC frontend. :) I have used mplayer and the gui, but had some problems an no time to figure it all out. If I get the time I will to plug the java gui into myHTPC.

osetivo
06-06-2003, 01:54 PM
Although, now that I think about it. There are individuals who "save to VCR" rather than digital extraction. So having PVR outside of TiVo might alow them to capture/burn DVD's without all the hacking.

shuiqlazam
06-07-2003, 05:52 PM
Nice I haven't been to the tivo-mplayer sourceforge site in a while.

I just ordered a LeadTek card figuring Tivo development has slowed down... Xbox has slowed down... pitou gone, etc....

Time for me to play with MythTV.

Great interface for it.. thanks... for all the hard work.

Shui