TyTool Alpha #7r10, VSplit Alpha beta #3.31b1, DVD output...

[bato]

jaja

1- the out of sync is in your PC, in your players or both. if you only checked PC maybe you have a bad mpeg2 codec that your software player is using, for me is impossible to think sync problems with TyTool (thanks jdiner)

2- Select "show results as posts" instead the default "show results as threads"

[EvilJack]

I unpacked the .zip file.

I started up the program and pointed it to my tivo.

No connection.

What exactly is it trying to connect to on my TiVo?

Is that documented anywhere?

I have mfs_ftp working/running but it's not
on the standard mfs_ftp port. Is this going to
talk to that or what?

Any how-to's for the newbies.

Thanks.

[jaja]

jdiner, my synch issues were in the first four shows I extracted. After that, I just kept trying different ways to get the smallest one working to no avail. They all play fine on the TiVo but, after any sort of extraction, the synch issues are always there throughout the show. If it's this "codec" thing on my pc, how do update it?

gardavis/bato, much thanks with the "Show printable" and "show results as posts" tips . It didn't help me solve this one, but it will come in handy alot in the future. Very cool.

[jaja]

hey, that "codec" thing got me thinking and so, I tried playing the show using WMP instead of winamp and the synch problems are gone.

[bato]

Originally posted by EvilJack
Any how-to's for the newbies. A search for "tytool documentation" and you can find a poll from just4fun with 2 files in it. If you don't want to search clic here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26095&highlight=tytool+documentation)

Also in the sticky thread "where are the files?" Snoopy put a file with everything you need and a how-to in there, also a link to the direct PDF how-to download from just4fun.

[bato]

Originally posted by jaja
hey, that "codec" thing got me thinking and so, I tried playing the show using WMP instead of winamp and the synch problems are gone. Great that it worked with WMP, I can't make it work with it, I use PowerDVD 4 to play mpg, vob and DVDs.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by jaja
hey, that "codec" thing got me thinking and so, I tried playing the show using WMP instead of winamp and the synch problems are gone.
Wow. i did not even know that winamp could play mpeg2 files. I know that they are ever expanding things, and they tend to get it right in the end. It is without question my favorite mp3 player. It will be interesting to see where things go.

Glad you got it solved in the end.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by bato
Great that it worked with WMP, I can't make it work with it, I use PowerDVD 4 to play mpg, vob and DVDs.
It all depends on the codec and further it even depends on which codec was first etc...

Strange enough. If I put WinDVD on first, then PowerDVD and never ever installed the Elecard codec WMP will play the files just fine. I don't know which of the above codecs it likes and which it hates, other than the Elecard one, but...

Also the codec from the Mediamatics player, the player is not the best, will also work with great success.

Having said that hower I tend to ignore all of the others and just use PowerDVD. It came as a freebee with my video card and it just... works.

--jdiner

[sych0]

sorry if this is a silly question, but ive read through documentation and searched, but couldnt find any answer. How does the grouping work? Under view i got all sorts of ways to group the shows. But theyre all ghosted. Theyre ghosted when i load the app, ghosted when i refresh the now playing, and ghosted when i select episodes. What gives? How does it work?

[jdiner]

Grouping? In TyTool? The answer is that it doesn't. It pulls them in whatever the order the Tivo display is set too. So most of the time newest at the top by date.

As for ghosted. What is the TyStream list? Or the control buttons?

--jdiner

[eastwind]

Originally posted by jdiner

As for ghosted. What is the TyStream list? Or the control buttons?

--jdiner

Looks like sych0's talking about the 'Group by....' items under the 'View' menu in TyTool(7r8).

EW

[sych0]

Yea....It was in TyTool 7r7 as well. You know, the toolbar has file edit view and options. Under options its got group by date, day of the week, show title, etc. What do those do and how do they work?

[shorin]

I have been watching these forums for many months waiting for a version of TyTools that is a one-step solution for TY-to-DVD creation. I think that TyTools is there (great job Jdiner), but I have a problem that I can't figure out (I have searched for it).

I am using a T60 with 2.5.2 and use TyTools for all my extraction. I have tried several different versions of TyTools, including 7r8 with the same results. When I take a TY to DVD, I get a green bar on the right side of the screen when I play it on the computer. The video isn't cut off, but compressed to the left. On my Pioneer DVD player, I get the same results only the bar is black. I have tried every setting I could think of, and tried it on multiple TY files (I've got about 600 GB of them I'd like to get to DVD)... Hopefully someone can shed some light on this as I'm at a loss. Thanks.

Danny

[mas]

Green bar is normal, you can take it off with tmpgenc if you want to, but it will take time.

Re pioneer, my pioneer also does this, its domething todo with the resolution not been changed. The resolution from tivo is retained, some dvd players stretch the picture to fit, the cheap apex one do this very well. When this is done there is no green bar.

The only way to change this is to correct the resolution to dvd levels, this takes a very long time and tytool doesnot do it, again tmpgenc will. But becuase you are messing with the resolution the picture quality can suffer.

Some people have changed the resolution tivo records at to match dvd, I haven't tried this yet so can not comment on wheather this is sucessfull.

Mas

[Toddler]

Originally posted by mas
Some people have changed the resolution tivo records at to match dvd, I haven't tried this yet so can not comment on wheather this is sucessfull.

Mas You can't do that on a DirecTiVo, only on a standalone. So that wouldn't help him if he has a T60. But if you have a standalone, it is an awesome tweak.

[shorin]

Thanks for the info. There has to be another way to get around this. Changing resolution isn't an option as I've got a Dtivo. I'd be willing to buy a new DVD player for the house to fix it, but I need this to work on the computer as well..... Any other options would be very appreciated.

Danny

[mas]

Back on the main forum list, there is a list of supported DVD players that have been tried and worked etc,

I purchased an Apex, it works a treat, not the same quality and feel as the pioneer, but very very cheap.

MAs

[eastwind]

I have yet to see a software DVD player that will allow you to mask the image to a viewable area like you TV's. AFAIK if the bar is present it will always be seen in the DVD players viewing window. The player want to give you all the information present even if you don't want it. I have only tried PowerDVD and (briefly) WinDVD. I haven't seen a setting on any of them to mask part of the video stream. If you find one let us all know about it though (please) as I know this is an annoying for a lot of us.
EW

[shorin]

I guess it's comforting to know that I'm not alone with this problem.... :( Hopefully we'll find some sort of workaround. I wonder if there's anything that Jdiner can do in his code to fix it?

Danny

[Toddler]

Originally posted by shorin
I guess it's comforting to know that I'm not alone with this problem.... :( Hopefully we'll find some sort of workaround. I wonder if there's anything that Jdiner can do in his code to fix it?

Danny Understand that the issue has to do with video resolution. DVD-compliant video is either 720x480 or 352x480. DTivo files are 480x480. There's not a "fix" because it's not a "problem" technically speaking, it's just an incompatibility between formats. You're taking the DTivo format video stream which does not conform to DVD specifications and trying to make DVDs out of it anyway. Yes, there are ways to force the video onto a DVD, and yes, there are a few players which can handle it and format it properly. But realize that jdiner's code has nothing to do with the resolution of the video coming off of the DTiVo. It's just a straight conversion process.

The only "workaround" which could be coded would be adding video transcoding functions to TyTool, which Josh has already stated he is not interested in doing, and I don't blame him. The transcoding process is a time-consuming one and Josh's primary goal is to make TyTool the quickest way to go from .ty to a menued DVD. Plus, there are already other apps which do video transcoding such as TMPGEnc or MPEG2VCR, so if that's something you need to do, there's your solution. There's no other answer.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by sych0
Yea....It was in TyTool 7r7 as well. You know, the toolbar has file edit view and options. Under options its got group by date, day of the week, show title, etc. What do those do and how do they work?
Oh. I see. They do nothing. Never have. I never got around to adding the code for them. I have had tons of things to do with in the actual working code. The GUI has never really been exactly what I wanted.

--jdiner

[mikey]

RE: Green bar help

I had a similar problem on one of my computers. It is running Win XP pro and has a Matrox G400 dual head video card. Windvd and Power DVD both display the green bar on the television, but play fine when displayed full screen on the computer. Windows media player, on this computer, will play the dtivo files full screen on the television.

On another computer running Win XP Pro and an ATI AIW Radeon all players display fine on the computer, and display full screen on the television…


You might want to try vlc media player (www.videolan.org) a free player that I have found will play anything I have tested it with.

You might also want to try installing the latest codecs. The most complete set I have seen is the kazaa lite codec pack at www.k-lite.tk . Remove the older codes first. Back up your system before installing. I have heard of these causing problems, but personally have never experienced it.

Give up on the pioneer! I tried for 2 weeks, before finally finding an explanation at dvdrhelp.com explaing the problem. It is not correctable without re-encoding.:mad:

Hope this helps,
Mikey

I hope the additional r helps the english professors among us happy :)

[Pro-289]

What's the deal with "you" and "your" anyway? I see the R skipped in "your" ALL the time. And have done it myself sometimes too.

Maybe cause they are both complete words in themselves.

Maybe it's getting to be slang. Like when "some" people say "axe" instead of "ask". :)

[mas]

Just finished testing the latest fix for the 11111 errors for jdiner, and its looking good. It's got rid of ALL my problems. From the 2.5G i recorded nearly 12 months ago to the 6.5G i recorded last month.

A big thank you to jdiner,

Look forward to the iofficial release soon.

Mas

[mas]

Has any one with a UK TiVo changed the resolution to DVD size ?

If so, any problems ?

[stealthdave]

Way back in version vsplit2x, there used to be binaries for Linux (x86) and MacOSX distributed with, or shortly after, the windows release. Is it still possible to compile the current vsplit for these environments? Right now I'm using the tivo-mplayer solution to watch tivo programs on my local box, but that is based on 0.90rc4 version of mplayer which lacks such things as Sorenson support for Quicktime, etc. I'm working on creating a script which uses vserver, pipes and fifos to do the same thing without needing a patched/recompiled version of MPlayer, and it'd be nice use a recent version of vsplit to accomplish it, on both Linux and Mac.

Thanks,
- Stealth Dave

[eastwind]

Release VSplit 3.03 Beta 2 for MAC OSX (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=106205&highlight=vsplit+mac+osx#post106205)

I didn't d/l the file to see what was in it, just remembered it was there.

EW

[TheWickedPriest]

Originally posted by stealthdave
Right now I'm using the tivo-mplayer solution to watch tivo programs on my local box, but that is based on 0.90rc4 version of mplayer which lacks such things as Sorenson support for Quicktime, etc.
Why not just keep two versions of mplayer around -- one for Tivo, and one for other stuff? That's what I'm doing. I have "mplayer" installed globally, and "mplayer-tivo" in my ~/bin directory -- aliased, in turn (with some options) to "mp" and "mpt" respectively.

Of course I still would like to see TyTool open sourced, too.

[mikey]

Jdiner I have a problem .ty. It causes TyTool7r8 to close when attempting to multiplex the file. The file will vsplit with no errors. The error is in the first 10 chunks. Other than the Microsoft error message in Win XP Pro, I do not receive an error message. I have clipped the file using TyFileSplit, but it is too large to upload here. If you would like the file please tell me where to upload or email it as well as which format (ty (1408kb), zip (1214kb), or rar (1196kb)) you would like it in.

Thanks for all of your hard work,
Mikey

Information displayed by TyTool, before allowing XP to close it.


Original ty file.
Ready...


Processing already downloaded file: 'K:\TyTool\Stargate.ty'
Detected Tivo Type: DTivo
Detected Audio Stream Type: MPEG Layer II
Final standardAudioSize = 588
Final standardFrameLength = 576
Final standardAudioDiff = 2160 or 00:00:00.024
First Video PTS: 00:01:35.860


TyFileSplit error

Trancode Selected Mode: 7
Ready...


Processing already downloaded file: 'K:\TyTool\smallproblem.ty'
Detected Tivo Type: DTivo
Detected Audio Stream Type: MPEG Layer II
Final standardAudioSize = 588
Final standardFrameLength = 576
Final standardAudioDiff = 2160 or 00:00:00.024
First Video PTS: 00:01:35.860

[Toddler]

Did you try muxing without the Dolby transcode?

[mikey]

YEP!

I also tried audio otions: none,2,3,4,5,6, and 7. I have tried it with and without patching audio holes. I have ran vsplit3.03b1 with

vsplit3.03b1 -m <infile.ty> <output.mpg> <needed,not used>
it also errored out.

anything else I should try?
Mikey

[jdiner]

Wow. Well I just saw the very wierdest MPEG-2 output stream I have seen yet. Not from my stuff mind you but just in general. To be honest I am not sure what the source was someone seemed to just have been trying to use GopEditor and TyTool with it.

Wow. I feel so much better about my output after having seen that... :)

--jdiner

[koreth]

I think the answer is no, but I'm checking to see if the current TyTool supports Dolby Digital audio when making VOBs (not DD transcoding, but writing a VOB where the source material has DD audio, e.g. HBO shows.) It seems like people have been talking about having problems with transcoding.

DD shows are the last remaining big chunk of backlog I have sitting on DVD-RWs in my closet.

[jdiner]

Yeah. The ones I have to test with, DD clips that is, now all work. Including PTS resets and other things.

--jdiner

[koreth]

Cool! Is that using the current release or the upcoming one?

[captain_video]

The current release of TyTool supports Dolby Digital. I've found that it's currently the only authoring tool in my stable of programs that will successfully compile long movies with DD soundtracks without losing synch. I recorded Gangs of New York last week and authored it with SpruceUp and the synch was off by several seconds right from the start. TyTool kept it in perfect synch all the way to the end.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by koreth
Cool! Is that using the current release or the upcoming one?
That is the currently available release.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by captain_video
The current release of TyTool supports Dolby Digital. I've found that it's currently the only authoring tool in my stable of programs that will successfully compile long movies with DD soundtracks without losing synch. I recorded Gangs of New York last week and authored it with SpruceUp and the synch was off by several seconds right from the start. TyTool kept it in perfect synch all the way to the end.
Yeah. You would not believe how poorly put together the Dolby Audio is from DTV. I know why it works and it definately works from what I can tell. But man alive. Given what I have seen a standard mux'er has no chance over the course of a couple of hours of keeping everything aligned and working.

--jdiner

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by jdiner
That is the currently available release.

--jdiner

I thought there was an issue regarding the transition from non-DD to DD at the beginning of a flic. Has that been fixed, or do you need to chop off the non-DD beginning to make this work? Also, weren't you also looking into being able to output ANY audio type into AC3 for compatibility/size reasons? Sorry if I missed these milestones.

[Kolosiek]

Some observations about telnet and extracting:

I haven't seen anyone mention this behavior. I suspect it can cause several symptoms during extraction.

About the time my HRD212 was upgraded to 3.0 software, the telnet connection started flaking out. I got a lot of garbage characters unless I typed very slowly. telneting to the Tivo also caused the Tivo to slow down considerably. I finally used Ethereal to see what was happening. When a telnet connection is made a few thousand messages per second are going back and forth, such as Won't negotiate about window size and Won't output line width.

I haven't fixed the telnet connection, but I now run tserver_mfs6 from rc.sysinit, and now the Tivo is much better behaved during extraction. Refreshing the Now Showing list is much faster. I'm not sure if extraction is faster.

I'm using an old TivoNet board. I'm using Windows 2000 SP4 and I've tried the W2K telnet and the cygwin telnet.

[captain_video]

Extraction problems can occur if the Tivo is otherwise occupied with other tasks. If the drive is starting to get fairly full, then that can also bog down the works since your ty files may be scattered all over the drive.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by BubbleLamp
I thought there was an issue regarding the transition from non-DD to DD at the beginning of a flic. Has that been fixed, or do you need to chop off the non-DD beginning to make this work?

You still need to chop the start. I have figure out how to do this. But I put it off as I ran into some real issues with Dolby audio. Once I started digging into it it just gets worse and worse. It is not hard to fix the problems my own code is having but dealing with the DD TyStream audio data is seriously problematic.


Also, weren't you also looking into being able to output ANY audio type into AC3 for compatibility/size reasons? Sorry if I missed these milestones.
Ummm. Yeah. That is there. Check the audio transcoding options at the very bottom of the popup menu.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by Kolosiek

About the time my HRD212 was upgraded to 3.0 software, the telnet connection started flaking out. I got a lot of garbage characters unless I typed very slowly. telneting to the Tivo also caused the Tivo to slow down considerably.
This is behavior I have never seen or had reported before. My best guess would be the client in use. I am assuming that you are using the same tnlited that everyone else is.

And a storm of IAC's of any flavour is seriously out of spec. Like the client is simply refusing to accept it.

As for the client I don't know what to tell you. I don't use Win2k SP4, just SP1 and SP2 on 2 different machines. Try the free trail version of Van Dykes CRT program. I have used that while monitoring packets with ethereal and never seen the problems you mention.

--jdiner

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by jdiner

Ummm. Yeah. That is there. Check the audio transcoding options at the very bottom of the popup menu.

--jdiner

OK, so does this mean if I pick AC3 it can handle this without a chop in the beginning? Or regardless of the output chosen, it won't handle a change in the audio stream anywhere within the file?

[jdiner]

Originally posted by BubbleLamp
OK, so does this mean if I pick AC3 it can handle this without a chop in the beginning? Or regardless of the output chosen, it won't handle a change in the audio stream anywhere within the file?
No. It means that you can go from MP2 audio into AC3 audio. Like I said in the answering message:


You still need to chop the start.


Use AudioCheck to find the cut over point and go from there.

There is more to come with Dolby audio. But as I have also said recently the stuff is a mess. I'd be happy to discuss what I have seen/found out about it.

--jdiner

[Asuka98]

My DTivo recorded the women's 2003 world championships, and although it pulls down fine, muxing or making a key file crashes tytool. The file is huge (2.5GB) so I tried cutting it with tyfilesplit and the cut file around the problem doesn't crash.

Anyway, at verbose level 1, I see this at chunk 18945:

Woah.... This is a DTivo audio error packet.
We have written 90333 bytes and we needed to write 480 bytes.
Write out -89853 padding 0's.

Woah.... This is a DTivo audio error packet.
We have written 1462 bytes and we needed to write 480 bytes.
Write out -982 padding 0's.

It would seem trying to write out negative numbers of 0's is overwriting some critical chunk of memory, but seeing as how I don't have the source handy I can't see what's going on.

I am putting the cut ty (80 chunks at 18920) at:

http://shinji.uchicago.edu/prob.ty

[jmhenry5150]

jdiner -

did you see this thread?

Menu Corruption Thread (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27036)

[jdiner]

Originally posted by jmhenry5150
jdiner -

did you see this thread?

Menu Corruption Thread (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27036)
Yeah. Look for the response in that thread.

--jdiner

[PlackSlayer]

When attempting to make a key file from a ty I have downlaoded this is the error I get...



Trancode Selected Mode: 0
Ready...
Generating KeyFrame File: G:\{Xena Warrior Princess}{1995-11-06}{Prometheus}{08-27-2003 09.00 AM}{OXGN}.ty
Detected Tivo Type: DTivo
Detected Audio Stream Type: MPEG Layer II
Final standardAudioSize = 588
Final standardFrameLength = 576
Final standardAudioDiff = 2160 or 00:00:00.024
First Video PTS: 00:02:22.040
......... 100......... 200......... 300......... 400......... 500

......... 600......... 700......... 800......... 900......... 1000

......... 1100......... 1200......... 1300......... 1400......... 1500

......... 1600......... 1700......... 1800......... 1900......... 2000

......... 2100......... 2200......... 2300......... 2400......... 2500

......... 2600......... 2700......... 2800......... 2900......... 3000

......... 3100......... 3200......... 3300......... 3400......... 3500

......... 3600......... 3700......... 3800......... 3900......... 4000

......... 4100......... 4200......... 4300......... 4400......... 4500

......... 4600......... 4700......... 4800........
Found an OOB packet... The Video Diff is: 00:42:05.571
BBB the PTS was bad, but the new SEQ check lines up|!?
Found an OOB packet... The Audio Diff is: 00:00:00.024
It is in sequence... Everything is fine...

AudDIFF: Need to add 2 empty audio packets!
Successfully filled in the Audio hole!

-1x4 - No Audio or Video timestamps in this chunk... Checking byte counts...

-1x4: Number of Records: 2 ( 2 0 ff ff)
-1x4: # 0 vid ( 4): 0 0 4b e0 30 0 c7 f8 0 0 2 2a 9c 97 d9 cb
-1x4: # 1 vid ( 131032): 1f fd 82 e0 30 2b 16 8 0 0 2 2a 9c 97 d9 cb


11111 -> Chunk contains neither audio nor video data. Stop here...


Any suggestions to fix this error?
--Plack

[jdiner]

Originally posted by PlackSlayer

4800........
Found an OOB packet... The Video Diff is: 00:42:05.571
BBB the PTS was bad, but the new SEQ check lines up|!?
Found an OOB packet... The Audio Diff is: 00:00:00.024
It is in sequence... Everything is fine...

AudDIFF: Need to add 2 empty audio packets!
Successfully filled in the Audio hole!

-1x4 - No Audio or Video timestamps in this chunk... Checking byte counts...

-1x4: Number of Records: 2 ( 2 0 ff ff)
-1x4: # 0 vid ( 4): 0 0 4b e0 30 0 c7 f8 0 0 2 2a 9c 97 d9 cb
-1x4: # 1 vid ( 131032): 1f fd 82 e0 30 2b 16 8 0 0 2 2a 9c 97 d9 cb


11111 -> Chunk contains neither audio nor video data. Stop here...

Any suggestions to fix this error?

First off this is an old message. What version are you running. This is a statement that an error occurred and recover took place. You can try it through the latest version once I get it fully released. But by and large what you got is informational only.

--jdiner

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
First off this is an old message. What version are you running. This is a statement that an error occurred and recover took place. You can try it through the latest version once I get it fully released. But by and large what you got is informational only.

--jdiner

[startbegandgrovelingmode]
Any chance of the new release soon? I have a movie I am dying to get published on a CD that is erroring out:
11111 -> Chunk contains neither audio nor video data. Stop here...
[endbegand grovelingmode]


PS: Thanks for all you do....

[PlackSlayer]

This error came from the latest version - r8 as well as r7 (tried them both and got the same message at the same spot).

Thanks,
--Plack Slayer

[sanderton]

Do these 11111 errors asctually cause a problem with the output? I get loads of them, but it seems to carry on OK.

[mas]

The 11111 errors do cuase final output to have problems. In effect data is lost in the stream and the picture will pixelate before correcting it self. This happens for only 1/2 to 1 second each time so is hard to spot without watching output.

BUT

jdiner has resolved this, i've tested it. BOth by 6.5GB and 2.5GB recordings process fine on the new version of the software.

Wait for the next release and all should be well, if you still get 11111 errors with the new software (after 7r8) then jdiner will probably want an extract to work on.

But I'm not expecting to get any more now.

mas

[sanderton]

Thanks. I look forward to the new version.

I can't believe how great these tools are!

[hdvr_too]

OK I have successfuly extracted several episodes of simpsons, vob/mux'd, and created files and menu using tytool7R8.
The problem is that even though the audio video are in sync it seems to be choppy throughout the whole show. The video has very small glitches that seem to self correct but is still very annoying.
I'm not sure if I have missed a step or set something up wrong. I have not tried any cuts yet, just converting to VOB's and burning.

[dogbreath]

forgit it!

[fixn278]

Not sure if this exact error has been covered. I couldn't find anything that matches it exactly.

When creating a keyfile with TyTool7r8, one ty file gives me an error and crashes the app.

The message is as follows..

checkNumRecs: Number of Records: 208 (d0 0 ff ff)
??? Parsing chunk # 5462...

Found an OOB packet... The Video Diff is: 01:00:09.734
BBB the PTS was bad, but the new SEQ check lines up|!?
Found an OOB packet... The Audio Diff is: 00:00:00.024
It is in sequence... Everything is fine...

Then TyTool crashes...
TyTool7r8.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Error signature

AppName: tytool7r8.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: ntdll.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.1217 Offset: 00033aed

Running WinXP Pro SP1


Any advice?
Thanks



Edit: This also happens when downloading in vsplit mode

Edit 2: Went back to TyTool5 and Spruceup (I know, I'm practically an antique) and it appears the file has Temporal Reference/GOP errors

[jdiner]

Alright. You guys can call it.

Do you want 7r9 as it stands now or do you want to wait just a bit longer and get some nice new features in it?

The current fixes that in place are:

1- Added the fix for the Menu image corruption.
2- Closed a memory leak.
21- Added the delete option back in.
27- Added a "tee" command to the output from dvdauthor so that it goes to the screen and to a file.
29- Added the "use this NowShowing.tcl file" version of tserver_mfs for the 7r9 release.
30- Fixed the skip > 3 in the video issue. (PeteRuttman bad clip #1)
33- Added F5 to the navigation lists as a keyboard shortcut to refresh.
34- Fix the bug in delete that causes a crash on exit.

What is coming soon is:

1- Selectable font size for menu elements.
2- Automatic font size reduction for menu elements.
3- Wrapping text within menu elements.

4- Selectable font size for main menu title.
5- Automatic font size reduction for main menu Title.
6- Wrapping text within menu title.

7- Chapter points within the GopEditor and it's save files.
8- Generate .bmp files from within GopEditor to be used by files.
9- Save menu setups.
10- Add a menubar to the menu dialog.
- Save a menu.
- Load a menu.
- Add a menu, pick a new vob etc... and get it added in.
- Clean up. Delete .ty, .vob, .cut, .txt etc... For everything that actually got used.
-
11- Resize the menu dialog to show a more in the list boxes at the top (taller).
12- Finish GOP Editor display modes.
- Commercials only.
- No commercials.
13- Add a display timestamp option that will show what the playing time of a certain point really is.

14- Add a timer setup download option to TyTool. Have it grab anything new since the last time.
15- Add a feature to download and then automatically make the key file.
16- If the keyfile gets made with "no errors" of any kind the show on the tivo can be deleted.
17- Add a clean up option to the menu. Pick .TYs and get rid of everything associated with them.
19- Add the memory leak code in. Let's see if there are any. Something is wrong.
20- Add a network address select to the options menu. (can pick the one that they want to use.)

So do you want to wait a bit or get a release now? I am behind what I had wanted to release anyway. But putting the time into a release will slow the rest of this down just that much further. So those who are around can call it.

--jdiner

[gfb107]

I guess for me it depends on how long is "just a bit longer".
Is it a week or 2, or is it 3 to 5 weeks?

Also, I couldn't tell from your descriptions of the fixes if you've included the fix for my bad .tys, where a DTiVo audio error packet results in an attempt to write out a negative number of padding 0s, causing tytool to crash.

[TRILIGHT]

I could definitely use #13 and #15 above! If there was a way to get the video accepted in Maestro after using GOP Editor, I would be in heaven! :D

[jdiner]

Originally posted by gfb107
I guess for me it depends on how long is "just a bit longer".
Is it a week or 2, or is it 3 to 5 weeks?

Also, I couldn't tell from your descriptions of the fixes if you've included the fix for my bad .tys, where a DTiVo audio error packet results in an attempt to write out a negative number of padding 0s, causing tytool to crash.
Best guess. 2 - 3 days on time frame. Work has had me runnning around like mad lately. That is finally slowing down. I was gone 4 days this last week.

As for the audio issue you had I will have to look. But I was working on it and I think it is fixed.

--jdiner

[bluedog68]

I certainly would like it now. Thanks in advance.

[aliu]

I couldn't tell from your list, but I could really use a fix for this problem:

11111 -> Chunk contains neither audio nor video data. Stop here...

Other stuff I can work around for now, but this stops me in my tracks. If that is in 7r9 already, I would appreciate a release.

[gfb107]

I'm OK to wait 2-3 days. Thanks for all your efforts.

Originally posted by jdiner
Best guess. 2 - 3 days on time frame. Work has had me runnning around like mad lately. That is finally slowing down. I was gone 4 days this last week.

As for the audio issue you had I will have to look. But I was working on it and I think it is fixed.

--jdiner

[bato]

I'm working ok with 7r8, so you can take your time on the release, and if you want some betatesters... ;)

How about an audio transcode Dolby option at 192 not only 384? This way the file size is not bigger than the original mpaudio.

[BubbleLamp]

My vote's for a revamped UI at some point, hope that's still on the back burner?;)

[Toddler]

I'd suggest you do an interim release of 7r9, simply because making so many changes at once may make it harder to pinpoint the cause of any bugs. On the other hand, you may be pestered with 7r9 issues at a time when you're wanting to concentrate on version 8.

Personally I am not in any hurry.

[BlackMax]

For what it's worth, I vote to wait.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by bato
I'm working ok with 7r8, so you can take your time on the release, and if you want some betatesters... ;)

How about an audio transcode Dolby option at 192 not only 384? This way the file size is not bigger than the original mpaudio.
From what I can determine 192 is out of spec. 384 is the baseline for dolby audio. I might be wrong as all I can find are user comments on the spec.

If anyone can find real stuff I would love to see it or a link to it. I just don't want to fend off another round of "it doesn't work on my player" problems.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by BubbleLamp
My vote's for a revamped UI at some point, hope that's still on the back burner?;)
Nope. Infact I plan to remove most of the usefull features and make it as cryptic as freakin possible. We need to get this hobby back to the troubled times of yore...

--jdiner

[bato]

I always forget about specs, using 480x480 and 544.x480 to make my DVDs I never remember those little things. :D

[jdiner]

Well while waiting to see if there was any response to the question I got selectable fonts in place, so no more "not enough room" problems. Added wrapping text etc... to try and help with that even more.

So I think I will make the 7r9 release there and get the GopEditor fixes into either a 7r10 release or move up to the 8 series...

--jdiner

[sanderton]

Does r9 fix the "11111 no video data" errors problem? If so I'd prefer it sooner rather than later.

Nice upcoming features list; they will definitely be very welcome in 9 or 10!

Can I put in a request for what I suspect is a small addition? At the moment I have to use DVD Patcher to persuade my DVD authoring software to open a TyTool created MPEG as it requires a DVD compliant resolution. Patching the first header to 720 x 576 is enought to con it, and I find I don't need to patch it back afterwards. An option to "Save with DVD compliant header" would save a step in the process, as you are presumably writing the header info in TyTool anyway?

[tweaky]

Another couple of days (even a week) wouldn't make a difference to me. Of course, I am still waiting for my DVD burner. :)

[tivomaster]

Personally I could wait...
It is your baby you decide...

PS: are you planning on releasing the source? I would love to help develop. I am a very competent programmer albiet I don't know linux very well (I am learning). I would be happy to assist with the Doz side of the picture.

[TiVOBell]

I am having problems and I have turned up nothing in days of searching.

Setup:
SA S2 4.0, Prom-Hacked
mfs_stream ,NowShowing.TCL, and tserver_mfs for MIPS by Musclenerd (found here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25437&perpage=40&pagenumber=2) )
The latest TyTool release from Snoopy's 'Where are the files?" thread.

I get the following error message in TyTool.

Reading list from the server...
Clear Now Showing List...
Connecting to '192.168.1.204'
Connected...
Getting NowShowing data...
Total Size = 4271kbytes in 11.313000 seconds...

Name = 'c:\tivovideo\Warren Miller's Ride-'
fsIDs = '366214/366215/366216/366217/366218/366219/366220/366221'
Tivo Address = '192.168.1.204'
Connected...
Sorry... Failed to get the first 10 initial chunks...
Have to have at least that many to start the analysis phase...
DiffTime = 0.031000 (31) == 0.000517 Minutes total = 1310720

This happens whether the file is extracted by TyTool or mfs_ftp.

I have two theories
1) the Musclenerd files fixed my "Not a TiVo Super Block!" errors, but still have other issues, or
2) I am an i.d.i.o.t. and have missed something else that I should be doing. (I am not clear if there are any scrambling issues with 4.0. Do I need KMEM? My searches yield ambiguous answers to this)

I am leaning toward 2), as MuscleNerd has proven to be quite technically competent and I, on the other hand, have not.

[ronnythunder]

you didn't turn scrambling off. you need to either use kmem or patch the kernel.

ronny

[gfb107]

Originally posted by ronnythunder
you didn't turn scrambling off. you need to either use kmem or patch the kernel.

ronny
I thought scrambling was only an issue for DTiVos, not SAs.

[fixn278]

Originally posted by gfb107
I thought scrambling was only an issue for DTiVos, not SAs.

It was introduced in SA's with v4.0

[jmhenry5150]

jdiner -

Can you adjust the audio level when converting to Dolby Digital? I compared the sound and if you convert, the sound level is alot lower that regular processing...

Just a question - don't hit me! :)

-Mike

[CheeseDog]

jdiner -

Love your tools. Thanks for all the hard work.

I'm sorry if this is a noob question, but I've searched and searched and can't find the answer. Is there a maximum time length for a DVD title? Is this a limitation in TyTool or DVDs in general? I have been recording the US Open and burning to DVD, so each title is generally over 4 hours long. Using both PowerDVD and my Pioneer DVD Player, the movie freezes right around 200 minutes. With WinDVD, the movie doesn't freeze at this point, but the time display starts blinking nonsense characters (DV02...).

FYI, I'm using TyTool7r8.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Cheesedog

[jdiner]

Originally posted by jmhenry5150
Can you adjust the audio level when converting to Dolby Digital? I compared the sound and if you convert, the sound level is alot lower that regular processing...

I do not know. Sorry. I just used the code that Rowan here on for the forum wrote. I don't know what all it can do. I do know that I have not tied into every feature and it is possible that it can be used to raise or lower volume. I will contact the author and ask if it is in there.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by CheeseDog

Is there a maximum time length for a DVD title? Is this a limitation in TyTool or DVDs in general? I have been recording the US Open and burning to DVD, so each title is generally over 4 hours long. Using both PowerDVD and my Pioneer DVD Player, the movie freezes right around 200 minutes. With WinDVD, the movie doesn't freeze at this point, but the time display starts blinking nonsense characters (DV02...).

I don't know. To be honest. I know that most manufacturers refer to their disks as 200 minutes. But that has to do with data rate. The rate from a DTivo is seriously low compared with DVD standards.

Beyond that I have no real idea. Sorry.

--jdiner

[TiVOBell]

Thanks guys/gals. I see that I need to deal with the scrambling.

For anyone following along at home, here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25743&perpage=40&pagenumber=4) is where I confirmed this.

[tivomaster]

Is there an easy way to create a better menu for a DVD that was mastered with tytool. I love tytool but I would like to generate a little fancier menu with background's etc.....

[snoopy]

Originally posted by tivomaster
Is there an easy way to create a better menu for a DVD that was mastered with tytool. I love tytool but I would like to generate a little fancier menu with background's etc.....

DVD Lab at www.mediachance.com I believe is the prefered method. It even takes em straight from a TyTool mpg if you want.

[TiVOBell]

I finally have successful extraction on my SA S2 4.0 prom-hacked box. My life is complete. :)

This weekend (or hopefully sooner) I am going to summarize the key missing steps in newbie format.

Let me tell you though, all S2 roads lead to MuscleNerd. I found all of the information through many searches, and in the end the key missing bit of information was posted by him in one place or another.

My thanks to everyone in this forum, especially MNerd in my case, who selflessly gives so that the rest of us can benefit. Our hobby would not be where it is without people like this.
:cool:

[Stephen]

Im haveing a issue I think with tytools and cant find what I am doing wrong. After tytools r8 makes the Audio_ts and Video_ts directorys and I open up Neror to burn I get the following on UDF

"You have added DVD-Video Content to a compilation type that will not result in a DVD-Video Compliant disc. To create disks playable in Standalong DVD-Video players please use the DVD-Compilation type"

This is what I am doing
Takeing a 30 minute show in tytools

file Multiplex files (being checked off not multiplexing files)
file/VOB-Mux Files (let it work into a VOB file)
File Create IFO Directorys (Drag the files from the Video_TS and Audio_TS into Nero... I then get the above error msg

FYI Audio is none for transcodeing


PowerDVD and WinDVD both play the files properly along with Videolan (vlc)

I just noticed one thing... Under the tytool options/mux VOB-Mux is grayed out like it shouldnt be working... but I have the files from the "where are the files" thread 8-2-03

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by TiVOBell
I finally have successful extraction on my SA S2 4.0 prom-hacked box. My life is complete. :)

This weekend (or hopefully sooner) I am going to summarize the key missing steps in newbie format.

Let me tell you though, all S2 roads lead to MuscleNerd. I found all of the information through many searches, and in the end the key missing bit of information was posted by him in one place or another.

My thanks to everyone in this forum, especially MNerd in my case, who selflessly gives so that the rest of us can benefit. Our hobby would not be where it is without people like this.
:cool:

Congrats....
And ditto on the MNerd thanks!!!!!!

I have one question though. I don't have a SA S2 but my son does. I think I finally sparked his interest in hacking it. He keeps all of his recording in S2 folders. How does that affect the extract capability? How do you get to the recordings that are within folders or does it matter?

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by snoopy
DVD Lab at www.mediachance.com I believe is the prefered method. It even takes em straight from a TyTool mpg if you want.

Thanks for the recomendation snoopy...
What I had in mind was simply to make a little better menu than ttools puts out. While I love ttools, the menu that it puts out doesn't work very well in my dvd player. The first few characters are cut off and I can't put in longer than 25 characters as a description. For example it would not take "Bridge over the River Kwai". I had to shorten it to get it to take, and then it was not readable. I was hoping I could simply replace the menu vob and keep the rest of the creation since it works like a champ. Is this doable?

[jdiner]

The next releas will solve many of the menu issues you mentioned. It should be along shortly.

--jdiner

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
The next releas will solve many of the menu issues you mentioned. It should be along shortly.

--jdiner

Cool.... Can't wait.
Thanks, you da man

[Toddler]

Originally posted by tivomaster
Is there an easy way to create a better menu for a DVD that was mastered with tytool. I love tytool but I would like to generate a little fancier menu with background's etc..... Here's an extensive thread on my method, if you're still interested:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25896&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

-Toddler

[dogbreath]

I am trying to transfer files from T60 to computer with Tytools. When I open Tytools and try to refresh to get the list of files, I get "unable to get list" message. I have tserver running. Does anyone have any ideas what I have done wrong?

dogbreath

[Toddler]

Originally posted by dogbreath
I am trying to transfer files from T60 to computer with Tytools. When I open Tytools and try to refresh to get the list of files, I get "unable to get list" message. I have tserver running. Does anyone have any ideas what I have done wrong?

dogbreath Man, that could be anything from a bad cable to not knowing your TiVo's IP address. I assume you've checked the simple stuff, but if not, now's the time.

[cagey]

Will the new version address some of the problems with the chapter points?

[zqfmbg]

I see TyTool 7r8 crash while muxing a file. The same show goes all macroblocky in roughly the same spot on the Tivo itself, making me think there's some data corruption going on that TyTool can't gracefully handle.

Want the .ty? It's, oh, about 1 GB...

[Toddler]

I know this is not the place for this, but....

The power went out here for a while this evening, and when I got home it was back on again. I've got my TiVo connected to an APC UPS and the TiVo's record light was on, but the remote wasn't responsive and the picture on the TV was paused. So I unplugged it from the UPS to reset it.

Now when I plug it back in (either to the UPS or direct to the wall outlet), I get a scrolling, distorted black screen. That's it. There are no lights on the front of the TiVo, and I don't hear anything going on there either, although the room is noisy and I haven't opened it up yet.

Edit: Just checked and it seems like no fan activity either. I found a place where I can buy a power supply for SVR-2000 for $40, but is that something I can replace myself?

Any advice? Please?

Post replies in this thread:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27400

Edit #2: Replaced the power supply this morning, but I don't think that was the problem. When I plugged the TiVo in, there was still no lights, no hard drive, no fan...nothing. Out of curiosity, I unplugged it and then removed the Turbonet adapter, and plugged it back in...voila, power and lights. Unplugged the TiVo again, reconnected the Turbonet and powered it up once more...and this time it powered up.

I'm curious to put my old power supply back in now, but I don't want to mess with something that's working at the moment. So who knows what the problem was. At least it's working again, and I guess that's all that matters.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by cagey
Will the new version address some of the problems with the chapter points?
What problems?

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by zqfmbg
I see TyTool 7r8 crash while muxing a file. The same show goes all macroblocky in roughly the same spot on the Tivo itself, making me think there's some data corruption going on that TyTool can't gracefully handle.

Want the .ty? It's, oh, about 1 GB...
No. Just the section where things get dicey. Use TyFileSplit and extract the section that has the problem in is. Then a 5-10meg chunk can be sent and the problem can still be seen.

--jdiner

[cagey]

Originally posted by jdiner
What problems?

--jdiner

I posted this on another thread

"chapter points
I just made a new disc for my kid with 13 episodes of Rugrats. The menu looks garbled, but that has been addressed in another thread, but I seem to still have problems with chapter points. Nothing I make seems to have chapter points, including this disc. This time I selected the chapter at editor cut points and this didn't seem to work. When I play the disc in my stand alone dvd player and hit the chapter button, the disc skips to the next episode not the next edit point I made. This also happens when I select the other choice of chapter at # of minutes.

Is this something, I have done wrong in making this disc or are other people having similar problems.

Someone did address the # of minutes problem, but I didn't see any mention of the "editor cut points."

Thanks for any help."

Also, on this same disc, the episode just repeats. It doesn't go from one episode to the next. I don't know if I missed something to make the disc play from episode 1 to 13, but any help would be great.

Thanks for any help.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by cagey

I just made a new disc for my kid with 13 episodes of Rugrats.

Nothing I make seems to have chapter points, including this disc.

Someone did address the # of minutes problem, but I didn't see any mention of the "editor cut points."


For now the menu only supports 12 items total. But this will be changing soon with multi-page menu's etc...

As for no chapter points. I have no idea what would cause that. i put chapter points in every dvd I have created and they all work. What was the solution to the problem that someone else came up with? I don't follow every thread on here I just randomly check for new threads that seem to have something to do with my tools.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

The subject says it all. Here comes the new version of the tool.

Sorry this took so long to get out. Most of it has been done for weeks. I just got so busy at work that there was no time to truly get things cleaned up and finished for release.

Many many many new things in this release. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the release notes with care to get an understanding of the new features and how they all relate.

As always the new files will go in at the start of this thread.

The tserver_mfs7 and new NowShowing.tcl are now found within the release zip in the TSERVER directory for both the DVD and NoDVD releases.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Oh, one more quick note. There are not SeriesII bins in there for tserver et al.

They are on there way I just have not had a chance to build them yet. I will release them as soon as I have a few more things put in place to help with some of the CRC and other errors in using it.

--jdiner

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
Oh, one more quick note. There are not SeriesII bins in there for tserver et al.

They are on there way I just have not had a chance to build them yet. I will release them as soon as I have a few more things put in place to help with some of the CRC and other errors in using it.

--jdiner

Thanks jdiner...
We (series 2 users) can still use the editing/muxing/etc capablities we just have to use something like mfs_ftp to get the ty over to our doz box....

Thanks again
You da man....

[jdiner]

Ok. I have a nice new version of tserver_mfs7_mips compiled up. But I dont' have access to a hacked HDVR2 at the moment. So I can't even test it beyond no compiler warnings/errors. It should solve a geat many of the current issues.

So you series2 users can either wait while I try to get access to one or someone can volunteer to test it. Be aware that it might crash things, not badly just reboot the machine, when using it. But it someone can test it I can get a release out much quicker.

--jdiner

[TiVOBell]

I have an S2 and have successfully used TyTool to extract. I had to use Musclenerd's fixed tserver and mfs_stream files. He posted them here:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25437&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

[jdiner]

Yeah. His stuff works. But it does not have the latest ver7 code in it, nor does it fix everything that should have been done. I went back over things with a fine tooth comb.

I just need to know that it runs before I open myself up to a barrage of PMs about it now working.

--jdiner

[TiVOBell]

Hey, David Bought, someone wants a volunteer! (This is an 'inside joke' because he reamed me for offering to test one time.)

JDiner, I would be glad to test your MIPS version.

Thanks for the hard work, TyTool kicks butt.

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by TiVOBell
Hey, David Bought, someone wants a volunteer! (This is an 'inside joke' because he reamed me for offering to test one time.)

JDidner, I would be glad to test your MIPS version.

Thanks for the hard work, TyTool kicks butt.

Count me in too. I have a hdvr2 and would be happy to test it....

Thanks....

[sanderton]

Excellent work, jdiner!

Tried r9 on a ty which gave loads of 1111 errors under r8 - clean as a whistle. MPEG2VCR reports no timecode erros where a previously there were dozens.

Great stuff.

Many thanks.

(BTW just upgraded my system RAM from 256Mb to 1Gb and it makes a HUGE difference to how TyTool performs. My PC is now usable while TyTool processes in the background).

[jdiner]

Alright for those that want to test the hdvr2 version. Please send me a PM or email with your email address and I will get it shipped out as soon as possible.

--jdiner

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by sanderton
Tried r9 on a ty which gave loads of 1111 errors under r8 - clean as a whistle. MPEG2VCR reports no timecode erros where a previously there were dozens.

So you have a SA or a DirecTV unit, Sanderton? I just tried the new version on my problem recording from a DTiVo and it shows the same number of timecode errors that the r8 extraction did.

[tivomaster]

I am having 2 problems with 7r9. It could be a loose nut on the keyboard but I don't think so.

1. When I click the make ifo button the screens scream by and no files are left in the VIDEO_TS directory. I looked at the make.bat and it does not look right. For example it is pointing to jtee in a directory that it is not in.

2. The Menu is not comming out right. The text is centered in the left half of the screen.

I am attaching a zip file that contains the menu.bmp and the make.bat file...

PS: I am running windows XP if that makes any difference.

[bwperez]

I'm having the same problem tivomaster is.

>1. When I click the make ifo button the screens scream by and >no files are left in the VIDEO_TS directory. I looked at the >make.bat and it does not look right. For example it is pointing to >jtee in a directory that it is not in.

[tivomaster]

I edited the make.bat file and pointed it to the right location for jtee.exe, then manually ran it and it created the movies fine.

PS: what is the format of the dvdauthor.txt file that this process creates. I looked at it and all it contained was
000

[rob2k1]

On my DTivo I get this message when trying to get list of shows.

SERVER: We got a message! buf = 'SHOWING'
sh: ./NowShowing.tcl: No such file or directory

This is with the 7r9 release.

If I use the cmd tivosh NowShowing.tcl, it gives me a list of shows.

After testing, both tserver_mfs(6&7) versions will get the NowShowing list when using the NowShowing.tcl dated 6/7 by Capt'n Video in the 7r7 release.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

[jdiner]

Originally posted by tivomaster

1. When I click the make ifo button the screens scream by and no files are left in the VIDEO_TS directory. I looked at the make.bat and it does not look right. For example it is pointing to jtee in a directory that it is not in.

2. The Menu is not comming out right. The text is centered in the left half of the screen.

I am attaching a zip file that contains the menu.bmp and the make.bat file...

PS: I am running windows XP if that makes any difference.
Woah. The jtee thing is seriously wierd. Crap. I fear it is a loose nut behind the keyboard. Just so happens that it is my keyboard. :(

I have it fixed now. I should have looked a touch closer at what path variable I was using.

The menu is coming out right. Really it is. Not what you want but it is doing what you said...

There are still 2 columns of 6 entries each for a total of 12 possible menu entries. That has not changed. You changed the font and it increased the size from the looks of it. You can sort of see the top of the wrapped line on Bridge over the River.

Make sure you are on either Ariel or Courier as they seem to look the best, then select the font size and reduce it from 15, which should be the default, to something like 10. Then set the item and preview it again. It should be much smaller and much more text visible. Then work back up until you have what you want to see in that one.

THERE IS NO AUTO-FIT GOING ON. IT IS POSSIBLE BUT NUTTY TO DO WITH THE WAY MS DID FONTS SO I HAVEN'T BOTHERED YET. YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY MAKE IT FIT.

--jdiner

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner

The menu is coming out right. Really it is. Not what you want but it is doing what you said...

There are still 2 columns of 6 entries each for a total of 12 possible menu entries. ..........

--jdiner


AHHH, I understand....
Makes sense now that I know what it is doing.
Thanks....

[jdiner]

Originally posted by tivomaster
I edited the make.bat file and pointed it to the right location for jtee.exe, then manually ran it and it created the movies fine.

PS: what is the format of the dvdauthor.txt file that this process creates. I looked at it and all it contained was
000
Ah crap. It has been removed. It was supposed to be the text from the running of the dvdauthor programs 1 after another in the file.

That is just plain dumb. The code I am using to fire off each program, I don't actually run the make.bat that was just for debug purposes, fails when a pipe symbol is present. I will have to do it in a completely different way and it is just not worth that right now. So it is not going in.

Look for 7r10 with those things fixed in just a minute.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by rob2k1
SERVER: We got a message! buf = 'SHOWING'
sh: ./NowShowing.tcl: No such file or directory

This means 1 of 2 things. Either it can't find the file at all or it can't find one that has been set to execute. Please check the files on the tivo with ls -l and make sure both were set to be executed.

When you use tivosh the OS doesn't try to determine what to do as you listed it out explicitly.

So check the path and check the permissions. My best guess given that you could run it with tivosh ./NowShowing.tcl is that the permissions weren't set to executable.

do:

chmod +x NowShowing.tcl

to make it executable.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Alright just to keep things clear I have released the fixes to the few problems found tonight as 7r10.

Hopefully this will get everything back up running nicely.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by tivomaster
AHHH, I understand....
Makes sense now that I know what it is doing.
Thanks....

So you got it to look good and show all of the text now right?

Also if you switch to a non-fixed width font it makes a big difference in what will fit.

--jdiner

[rob2k1]

Originally posted by jdiner


do:

chmod +x NowShowing.tcl

to make it executable.

--jdiner [/B]



Here's the dir listings

-rwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 15380 Sep 13 02:32 NowShowing.tcl
-rwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 15380 Sep 12 21:41 nowshowing.tcl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 11786 Sep 13 03:05 nowshowingv6.tcl
-rwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 2044 Sep 13 01:31 showing
-rwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 48452 Sep 12 21:41 tserver_mfs
-rwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 48332 Sep 13 01:55 tserver_mfs6

using the -s option with the full path to the NowShowing.tcl fails, but with full path to the nowshowingv6.tcl works.

Thanks greatly for your help and especially these tools.

:confused:

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
So you got it to look good and show all of the text now right?

Also if you switch to a non-fixed width font it makes a big difference in what will fit.

--jdiner

Actually I haven't tried it yet. My Tivo/PC are tied up doing the extraction test. But know that I know what is going on I am sure it will work...

[jdiner]

Originally posted by rob2k1
Here's the dir listings

using the -s option with the full path to the NowShowing.tcl fails, but with full path to the nowshowingv6.tcl works.

Thanks greatly for your help and especially these tools.

It works for me just as I released it. Any number of things could have happened. Did you upload both files in binary mode to the tivo. That fact that you can run it directly and that it fails when done via the system is wierd. I have been using that server as is for more than a month now on a daily basis. Something else must be the culprit.

best bet in terms of an easy route is get a diff of the changes between the 2 files and copy the one that works and add the changes. I wish I could be more help but it works on the 4 tivos I have at my disposal to test on. 2 SA's, 1 DTivo, and on occasion a borrowed HDVR2.

--jdiner

[snoopy]

It all seems to work without a hitch.
O U T S T A N D I N G _W O R K as always.

I am in touch with another programmer that said he would help with putting a new face on all the tools you have worked so hard to create. I think I may have sent in some of his creditials to you, along with a picture of the proposed GUI referenced earlier in this project. I am not sure whether it reached you though as I have been having some problems with my mail server. I have reattached it, and would be glad to put you in touch with my friend. I'm not sure you are interested but I just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility. Again, thank you for a working so hard, and for FREE, for the benefit of Tivoers everywhere.

--Snoopy

[rob2k1]

Originally posted by jdiner
Did you upload both files in binary mode to the tivo. --jdiner

Man, you're good. I used WS_FTP Pro in auto mode. Guess it choose the wrong mode.

Thanks

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
So you got it to look good and show all of the text now right?

Also if you switch to a non-fixed width font it makes a big difference in what will fit.

--jdiner

jdiner, I just wanted to report back on the menu issue
I have done multiple movies all the way from Tivo (hdvr2) to dvd with no problems. I think it is good to go...

Once you set me straight on how the menu works. I was able to get a good looking menu. No problem.
Thanks for the excellent program

[sanderton]

Originally posted by TRILIGHT
So you have a SA or a DirecTV unit, Sanderton? I just tried the new version on my problem recording from a DTiVo and it shows the same number of timecode errors that the r8 extraction did.

UK SA.

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by rob2k1
Man, you're good. I used WS_FTP Pro in auto mode. Guess it choose the wrong mode.

Thanks

He is either good (which he is) or that is the five thousanth time that question/problem has been answered...

( I had to beat Bought to the punch ) ;)

Kidding aside don't feel bad that is a very common problem.

[Pro-289]

Originally posted by snoopy
I am in touch with another programmer that said he would help with putting a new face on all the tools you have worked so hard to create. I think I may have sent in some of his creditials to you, along with a picture of the proposed GUI referenced earlier in this project. I am not sure whether it reached you though as I have been having some problems with my mail server. I have reattached it, and would be glad to put you in touch with my friend. I'm not sure you are interested but I just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.
The GUI I made is a working shell. All I'd need are the commands for the buttons to run all the external .EXEs from the shell. If tyool#r#.exe has embedded commands and functions, then it will be more difficult to integrate those commands into a skin/shell. Unless tytool.exe could be controlled through switches (i.e. /? /mux /patch).

[gfb107]

Josh,

I just tried my Bad.ty (http://home.nc.rr.com/lbush2/Bad.ty), and tytool7r10 is still crashing when making the key file.

Originally posted by jdiner
Alright just to keep things clear I have released the fixes to the few problems found tonight as 7r10.

Hopefully this will get everything back up running nicely.

--jdiner

[tonyg]

When I download Tytools 7r10 with DVD it still says it's 7r9. However the without DVD oprion does show 7r10 for the executable.

[Pro-289]

EDIT: nevermind. I'll just experiment with using instructions from here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25588&perpage=15&pagenumber=15#post108182) on manually creating menu.mpg. To clear this up, after making my own menu.mpg file, do I then re-run the dvdauthor command in make.bat, the one with the "-T --menu", and that's all that needs to be run to insert the new menu into the already created IFO project?


TyTool7r10.exe crashes when it encounters a "Read-only" file attribute on menu.bmp.

I overwrite an IFO structure and try to set the file attribute of menu.bmp to "Read-only" because I want to create my own menu.bmp with video stills for the background using Photoshop.

First I create my menu text then "Make IFO", then abort. I delete everything except the menu.bmp file. Then I alter it with Photoshop adding my own pictures and graphics. Then I set the attribute to "Read-only" so TyTool doesn't overwrite it with its newly created .bmp.

Is there anyway you can make it so TyTool doesn't crash when it encounters a "Read-only" attribute on the menu.bmp file? That way we could use our own custom graphics for a background. Maybe even add a toggle option in TyTool to pause after it creates its own menu.bmp so if wanted to alter it, then TyTool will continue with using the newly altered menu. That would be cool. :D

[Pro-289]

Originally posted by tonyg
When I download Tytools 7r10 with DVD it still says it's 7r9. However the without DVD oprion does show 7r10 for the executable.
It works fine for me and others so far. This has been delt with in the past. You need to clear your browser cache. You still have an old page in there somewhere.

[quantum_3]

Ok i just burned my 1st dvd from dtivo. i followed the read me exactly and i am using TyTool7r10. now the good news is the video is crisp and i am very happy with it. the audio works fine as well. (it's harry potter 1 ) the bad news is there is a 1 thin black line going up and down on the right side of the screen about 2/3s over.on the other side of the line the picture starts over again. so if they were to show the picture of harrys face i would see his whole face on the 1st 2/3rds of the screen plus i get to see the 1st 1/3rd of this face on the other side of the line. really weird. i burned it with nero 6 and followed the read me:


quote "- DVD-ROM (UDF/ISO)
- On the UDF tab I select XBox compatibility. I do not know that this is required only that every disk I have burned (100+ test burns now 1 DVD-RW disk/10 real show DVD- R's) has worked as a result.
- Hit the new button to close the wizard.
- Drag only the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS from the output directory for TyTool into the pane. (Please see the manual for this or your program for real details this is highest level only).
- Burn it to disk. That is all it takes for me." end quote.


when i played it in WINdvd i didnt have a problem.


any ideas please???




on a side note i noticed in nero on the UDF tab there is a choice for "file system version" and it defaults to version "UDF 1.02" but there are other choices. which one do you use please?


Thanks,
Q_3

[sirfergy]

Sounds like your DVD player doesn't like 480x480

[quantum_3]

Sounds like your DVD player doesn't like 480x480

i think your right...



i just checked the disk out on the dvd player upstairs and it plays just fine. any ideas on how to make a dvd that would work on my main Toshiba downstairs???

thanks,
Q_3

[sirfergy]

Convert it to 720x480 resolution. There are many many posts on this subject here.

[Toddler]

Originally posted by sirfergy
Convert it to 720x480 resolution. There are many many posts on this subject here. Not a very attractive option though--be prepared to lose some quality and have your PC tied up for hours in the process. Rather than reencode everything you burn to DVD, consider just getting a new DVD player. Although you still aren't guaranteed you can bring your DVD to your buddy's house and have it play there.

That's the big advantage to the SA TiVos. I'll never give mine up...never!

[miteethor]

I just downloaded 7r10 and used it to create key files, cut commercials, VOB-mux, and Create IFOs. Dumped those files into Nero a burned.

Menus/video looks great, but the audio is strange - each second plays at twice the speed and then a gap, so for every second I am getting a second's worth of audio in the first half and nothing in the second half.

Did I pick a wrong setting?

MiteeThoR

[Pro-289]

Originally posted by miteethor
I just downloaded 7r10 and used it to create key files, cut commercials, VOB-mux, and Create IFOs. Dumped those files into Nero a burned.

Menus/video looks great, but the audio is strange - each second plays at twice the speed and then a gap, so for every second I am getting a second's worth of audio in the first half and nothing in the second half.

Did I pick a wrong setting?

MiteeThoR
Did you do any audio transcoding? Maybe you need to if you didn't. Try transcoding to #7-Dolby-48@384 when you mux your file. If you already tried #7 or your audio was already Dolby, try some of the other audio options.

[Pro-289]

If anyone's interested in changing their TyTool shortcut or .TY file icon, then try one of these. There's 155 to choose from. :D

[jdiner]

Wow. Well alrighty then. I will be adding a few icons to TyTool in the next little while I guess. Something better than the default junk that it uses.

Guess I should have done something about it sooner.

--jdiner

[osetivo]

Originally posted by Pro-289
If anyone's interested in changing their TyTool shortcut or .TY file icon, then try one of these. There's 155 to choose from. :D

Thanks, I love the little Tivo icon.

[ronnythunder]

ok, here's a "bug" in tytool that's either going to get me laughed at or a raspberry or something. i'm doing a test on my dsr7k and part of it involves recording "directv customer news" which is a 24 hour loop. the resulting stream takes up 19116mbytes (yes, nineteen thousand+ megabytes), but tytool seems to only take the leftmost 4 digits of the figure, so it shows up as "1911m" in the display.

oh please, jdiner, think of those of us with tystreams greater than 10gb in size! :D

ronny

[Pro-289]

Originally posted by osetivo
Thanks, I love the little Tivo icon.
Well, actually the 1st tivo icon I think I took a screen cap of gopeditor.exe's icon, :D then got the reference colours from the tivo dev. site. And also the 2nd icon I took from pictures from the dev. site too, and that one has all 3 res. sizes.

If anyone wanted to see what the icons look like before you download the zip, here's a screen cap.

[Hi8]

Josh;

THANKS so much for the fixes to allow tserver_mfs to be able to run from rc.sysinit!

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by Hi8
Josh;

THANKS so much for the fixes to allow tserver_mfs to be able to run from rc.sysinit!

I've said it before and I'll reiterate... I'm no Linux genius or anything. However, on any system, is it not better to not have a bunch of processes running that are not in use? I personally start up the tserver_mfs as needed. I'm just wondering what the advantages are of having a lot of processes running on the unit that are not actively being used? What is the limit on these units anyway? With TiVoWeb, telnet, FTP, tserver, etc. etc.... surely there is a breaking point where performance is affected. Does anyone know? Thanks!

[jdiner]

Originally posted by TRILIGHT
However, on any system, is it not better to not have a bunch of processes running that are not in use? I personally start up the tserver_mfs as needed. I'm just wondering what the advantages are of having a lot of processes running on the unit that are not actively being used? What is the limit on these units anyway?
Personally I agree with you. I start it as needed each and every time. But I added it for a reason.

The reason is seriously simple: Ease of use.

Many people want to use this stuff with little or no true computer savvy. So something that sets up and just runs is the way to go for them. As long as the tivo stays operating "well enough", in reference to what you said above, it is usable for them.

Now do keep in mind that while these processes are up on the tivo each of the ones you listed block. They DO NOT busy wait. So while a certain amount of resources are in use while they are up there is nothing going on until they are used. At least this is the case for TivoWeb, tivoftpd, tnlited and tserver. Each of these block on a socket call. So the OS/kernel is responsible for them but they get no CPU time themselves until an actual request comes in.

This is not the case for samba and nfs... These must announce themselves etc... They are still limited but I have noticed seriously degraded operation when they are running. This is just my own personal take.

Do keep in mind that you are dealing with a system seriously hacked to get any of this to work. That is the reason for the priority setting in tserver without it. Just getting a now showing list is enough to make the recording on the tivo skip and jump wildly. This causes true errors in the stream and upon extraction and processing you can see warning about the damage. With it all is fine.

So run it they way you like personally, so will everyone else.

--jdiner

[spoonwzd]

jdiner - Any chance you can add or provide the following:

1) Ability to sort/reverse sort Now Playing list by date/title/size/etc.
2) Options to define filename output, such as add date to generated filename.

I'm also having issues with mpeg corruption during scene changes, but I'll try r10 to see if it's fixed before ranting about that.

Keep up the good work!

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by jdiner
Now do keep in mind that while these processes are up on the tivo each of the ones you listed block. They DO NOT busy wait. So while a certain amount of resources are in use while they are up there is nothing going on until they are used. At least this is the case for TivoWeb, tivoftpd, tnlited and tserver. Each of these block on a socket call. So the OS/kernel is responsible for them but they get no CPU time themselves until an actual request comes in.

Wonderful! Thanks for the info, jdiner!

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by spoonwzd
jdiner - Any chance you can add or provide the following:

1) Ability to sort/reverse sort Now Playing list by date/title/size/etc.
2) Options to define filename output, such as add date to generated filename.

I'm also having issues with mpeg corruption during scene changes, but I'll try r10 to see if it's fixed before ranting about that.

Keep up the good work!

While we are in the request mode...
What about the ability to create a ty file? I would like to download a file, edit out the commercials, and upload it back to my tivo....

Thanks......

[jdiner]

Originally posted by tivomaster
While we are in the request mode...
What about the ability to create a ty file? I would like to download a file, edit out the commercials, and upload it back to my tivo....

Thanks......
That isn't something that is very easily doable. I ignore that Tivo created data by and large. It isn't needed for extraction and splitting. But to create the bit fields without completely understanding them is beyond me at this point.

Others have put way more time into extraction and re-insertion. You would be better off asking RC3105 or Alphawolf.

--jdiner

[tivomaster]

Originally posted by jdiner
That isn't something that is very easily doable. I ignore that Tivo created data by and large. It isn't needed for extraction and splitting. But to create the bit fields without completely understanding them is beyond me at this point.

Others have put way more time into extraction and re-insertion. You would be better off asking RC3105 or Alphawolf.

--jdiner


I understand...
Thanks. Great program!!!!

[snoopy]

Originally posted by spoonwzd
jdiner - Any chance you can add or provide the following:
1) Ability to sort/reverse sort Now Playing list by date/title/size/etc.
Keep up the good work!

That would be most helpfull, especially with some, who may have 2 120gb HDs or better. That list gets exceptionaly long and hard to manage.

[snoopy]

Originally posted by jdiner
Now do keep in mind that while these processes are up on the tivo each of the ones you listed block. They DO NOT busy wait. So while a certain amount of resources are in use while they are up there is nothing going on until they are used. At least this is the case for TivoWeb, tivoftpd, tnlited and tserver. Each of these block on a socket call. So the OS/kernel is responsible for them but they get no CPU time themselves until an actual request comes in.--jdiner

Good Info for me too Trilight,
I did not know this either. I was going to add to rc.sysinit but after reading this, I will not be doing that. This information is a big step in understanding how this stuff works.

[eastwind]

Is this the expected behavior?

When I pull a file in MultiPlex mode (instead of TyStream mode) and then try to generate a .KEY file I get thousands of information lines like this:


Final standardFrameLength = 626
Final standardAudioDiff = 2351 or 00:00:00.026
.Left over bytes = 928
Left over bytes = 1856
Left over bytes = 460
Left over bytes = 1388
Left over bytes = 2316
Left over bytes = 920
Left over bytes = 1848
Left over bytes = 452
Left over bytes = 1380
Left over bytes = 2308
.Left over bytes = 912
Left over bytes = 1840
Left over bytes = 444
Left over bytes = 1372
Left over bytes = 2300
Left over bytes = 904
Left over bytes = 1832
Left over bytes = 436
Left over bytes = 1364
Left over bytes = 2292


Over 4000 of these messages in one 30min show (580m)

There is an apparent pattern, but I don't know what to make of all this. Just wondering if anyone else runs into this, or if it was designed to work like this.

BTW, Still love to use TYTool. Keep up the great work.

EW

[dark strider]

Did the Linux version (or the OSX version) of the Tytool disappear? Can't find it anywhere...

[jdiner]

Originally posted by snoopy
That would be most helpfull, especially with some, who may have 2 120gb HDs or better. That list gets exceptionaly long and hard to manage.
Yeah. I just upgraded my own DTivo to have 2 120's.

There are many more form over function features coming. I have finally gotten to the point where I think we have about 99% going on. I have a few more problem streams that need some better support so that things stop crashing but for now I want some better stuff interface wise. It is time I think.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by eastwind
Is this the expected behavior?

When I pull a file in MultiPlex mode (instead of TyStream mode) and then try to generate a .KEY file I get thousands of information lines like this:


That only happens when you process an mpeg file that came from a different spec. Nothing produced to date by either an SA or DTivo will cause that.

Wierd. So provide me way more information on exactly what you did and it is possible that I can figure out what was going on.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by dark strider
Did the Linux version (or the OSX version) of the Tytool disappear? Can't find it anywhere...
I haven't had a chance to get fully caught up with all of that yet.

As for it disappearing I have not removed it or anything else.

--jdiner

[snoopy]

Originally posted by DarkStrider
Did the Linux version (or the OSX version) of the Tytool disappear? Can't find it anywhere...
here you go http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=106292

There aren't as many people using the Linux and OSX versions, so please let me know in a PM if something is missing. I would like to have the post up to date. I hope that helps.

[ac9]

I am having a problem using TyTool7r10 (had same issue with TyTool7r8). I can download .TY files from the Tivo fine. However, attempts to generate Key files or to 'VOB/MUX' the files generate the following error.

--------------------------- Error Message ----------------------------
Sorry... Failed to get the first 10 initial chunks...
Have to have at least that many to start the analysis phase...


DiffTime = 0.000000 (0) == 0.000000 Minutes

total = 1310720 (1 MB)
----------------------------- End Error Message ----------------------


My setup info:
DTivo - SONY SAT T60 (Tivo software 3.1.0-01-1-011)
Downloading using Turbonet card.
Tivo running tserver_mfs7 & NowShowing.tcl (9/12/03 version)
Win XP client running TyTool7r10

Also, can TyTool be run from command line to simply convert .TY files to an MPEG file, if I did not want to edit commercials etc.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

[eastwind]

Originally posted by jdiner
That only happens when you process an mpeg file that came from a different spec. Nothing produced to date by either an SA or DTivo will cause that.

Wierd. So provide me way more information on exactly what you did and it is possible that I can figure out what was going on.

--jdiner

Josh,
Tytool7r9 and tserver_mfs7.
Options..MUX..VCD/sVCD Mux Output
Options..Audio..#3 224x44.1
File..Multiplex Mode

Then I get the file from the TiVo and File..Make Key File(s).

That's when I get the Left over bytes messages.

Is it because I'm not using Standard Mux Output w/no transcoding?

ew

[jdiner]

Originally posted by ac9
I am having a problem using TyTool7r10 (had same issue with TyTool7r8).

Sorry... Failed to get the first 10 initial chunks...
Have to have at least that many to start the analysis phase...


DiffTime = 0.000000 (0) == 0.000000 Minutes

Also, can TyTool be run from command line to simply convert .TY files to an MPEG file, if I did not want to edit commercials etc.

Search the forum. All of this has been discussed in great detail before:

1- You have scrambling turned on. This is why it can't find any chunks. Add the noscramble patch in your favorite way and you will be good.

2- The command line version of tytool is called VSplit and has all of the same features and a command line interface. It came in both of the downloaded versions you mentioned above.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by eastwind
Tytool7r9 and tserver_mfs7.
Options..MUX..VCD/sVCD Mux Output
Options..Audio..#3 224x44.1
File..Multiplex Mode


Then I get the file from the TiVo and File..Make Key File(s).

That's when I get the Left over bytes messages.

Is it because I'm not using Standard Mux Output w/no transcoding?

Yeah. That is not the tivo doing it. That is my code, coupled with Rowans, producing as mentioned before the 44.1 audio rate.

What you saw was not a problem, it is left over debugging print code. It is annoying and slows things down but it is not a problem.

You should not be downloading in a transcoded mode, as this makes this miserably slow. You should get a TyStream if you are going to edit. Then you have lost nothing Information-wise when you edit and mux the output. But hey, do whatever suits your fancy.

--jdiner

[FredThompson]

I've watched release 7r10 crash each time I've tried to delete files.

With the Now Playing List being displayed by the DTiVo, tytool will crash if it is instructed to delete aprogram which has been manually deleted. It also crashes while trying to delete a program for which I've set the status to "save until I delete."

The typical windows error message about logging the error pops up. Running the client after this, produces a frozen client when it tries to retrieve the Now Showing data and the server reports multiple instances of, "Attempted to write to a broken socket"

bash also seems to go dead after this.

Is this a bug in the suite or is there a solution to fix what would be an improper installation on my end?

[Roj]

Josh,

First up, can I add my thanks for your hard work and great results - I've just started playing around with networking my Tivo, and your tools are great. I have one suggestion, and one question:

Suggestion:
My TV feed (UK free to view digital terrestrial) contains a mix of anamorphic 4:3 and 16:9 programming. When stuff is recorded on the Tivo, the aspect ratio information exists as well, as it correctly switches my TV to the correct mode on playback. I suspect this is embedded in the stream, since it can switch even during the course of a program (e.g. between adverts and the main feature).
During the TyTools process, this information seems to be lost - either if I extract/create a DVD entirely within the tool, or generate an mpg file from the ty file.

Would it be possible to either retain this information, or enable us to add it in later - preferably for each separate program on a DVD, but failing that, at least for the DVD as a whole. It would also be nice to be able to set it when outputting an mpg, although I think this can be retrofitted using dvdpatcher (I've not tried this yet, but it seems to be one of the options), so is not so important.

Question:
This may have been answered elsewhere, but I can't find it (see below).
When editing, if the gop editor shows me the following possible edit point frames:
a b c d e f g
And I set a cut start on "c" and an end cut on "f", are either/both of "c" and "f" removed, or just "d" and "e"?

Bonus general question to the forum:
I've seen it suggested that the way to search within a thread is to go to the printable view, select all posts on one page, and use the browser search function. But for me, selecting all posts on one page option doesn't actually do this - it still only shows the first page. This happen in both IE and netscape. Does anyone else have this problem? And preferably a fix!

Cheers,
Roj

[jdiner]

Originally posted by FredThompson
I've watched release 7r10 crash each time I've tried to delete files.

You delete the shows manually meaning with the remote? And then try to redelete them with TyTool? Why?!!?

As for it crashing that it not something I ever tested as it never even occured to me. The tivo has 4 main interface points. It's own timed stuff, it's remote, tivoweb, and in this case TyTool.

What you have here is a major race condition. It is not something you want to try and force issues on. You should pick your favorite method and stay with it.

I can however successfully delete here shows in whatever mode. I can delete those that are just there, marked as save until I delete, etc... Sounds like you have some real issues there in more ways than one.

I am about ready to remove the delete stuff altogether. It has been nothing but trouble.

EDIT: FredThompson: I just tested all of what you had troubles with here on my DTivo, manually delete, deleted from TivoWeb, save until I delete etc... It all worked. Are you sure you upgraded the tserver to verion 7 and the NowShowing.tcl file as well? That is all I can think of that would be causing your problems.

If you are now using TyTool7r10 and tserver_mfs7 then you have no hope of it working. It was broken badly up until this latest release.

--jdiner

[ronnythunder]

Originally posted by jdiner
I am about ready to remove the delete stuff altogether. It has been nothing but trouble.

--jdiner aiee! no! keep the delete stuff! especially with the 7r10 stuff, the delete function works great for me. i routinely need to delete dozens of shows at one time, and i'd go insane trying to do it one at a time with the remote.

ronny

[BubbleLamp]

Originally posted by jdiner
I am about ready to remove the delete stuff altogether. It has been nothing but trouble.

--jdiner


It works perfectly here, and very fast now too! Keep it in<g>

[jdiner]

Originally posted by Roj
My TV feed (UK free to view digital terrestrial) contains a mix of anamorphic 4:3 and 16:9 programming. When stuff is recorded on the Tivo, the aspect ratio information exists as well, as it correctly switches my TV to the correct mode on playback. I suspect this is embedded in the stream, since it can switch even during the course of a program (e.g. between adverts and the main feature).
During the TyTools process, this information seems to be lost - either if I extract/create a DVD entirely within the tool, or generate an mpg file from the ty file.

I have answered this a number of times.

The problem is not something I am doing. To be honest I have no clear idea what is wrong.

The display resolution for an mpeg stream is not set at the mux/vob level. It by it's very nature is part of the video Elementary Stream (ES). I can even tell you where in that stream it is. Nothing in my code alters/changes/munges/corrupts/fixes this value. If it was truly set to 16:9 the correct way it would be passed along and used. The dvdauthor tool used in cooperation has a check for it as well and for me has caught the change to this resolution and set things correctly. So something the stream is doing unusual in some way. I have no idea what that is...

UK tivos are all standalone. So it is re-encoding everything that comes to it when it saves.

There must be some check to catch a resolution change. The black bars top and bottom?!!? Something. Anyway, my best guess is that that check and change is not found at the record time but at playback. And it is changing things as it goes out to the tv. As this is when they would have the very most time as it is all hardware used to display, technically for the recording too but couple it with needing to write to the disk and...

You can send me a few megs of a portion of the stream you know is supposed to be 16:9 and I can look at again. But last time I checked everything in the stream marked it as a 4:3...

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Originally posted by ronnythunder
aiee! no! keep the delete stuff! especially with the 7r10 stuff, the delete function works great for me. i routinely need to delete dozens of shows at one time, and i'd go insane trying to do it one at a time with the remote.

Yeah after all of my testing both before release and now things look 100% to me too. So I will be keeping it. It has just been a bit of a pain to pull off to a good enough state.

--jdiner

[snoopy]

Originally posted by ronnythunder
aiee! no! keep the delete stuff! especially with the 7r10 stuff, the delete function works great for me. i routinely need to delete dozens of shows at one time, and i'd go insane trying to do it one at a time with the remote.

ronny
I agree, I like that feature. I hope you decide to keep it.

[Pro-289]

Originally posted by Roj
Bonus general question to the forum:
I've seen it suggested that the way to search within a thread is to go to the printable view, select all posts on one page, a