TyTool Alpha #8r3, VSplit beta #3.41, DVD output...

[FredThompson]

Media Player Classic has an MPEG2 play codec but it won't work with tyshow. At least, it didn't for me. Maybe the new version works with it.

[sanderton]

[didn't read question properly]

[FredThompson]

[didn't read question properly]I think you did. How did you get it to work? I setting the "open" action for .ty with MPC and it wouldn't work. Better yet, if you can get it to work with VirtualDub, that would be a great help. With the current 3G length issue, retrieving by part and knowing what you've really got can be a chore.

Uh...guess I should explain that.

If you've got a long recording, say a sporting event or adjacent shows and the stored file is greater than 3G, parts of the current tytool suite have a challenge indexing properly through it. tytool has a function to retrieve part of a stored recording, the "get parts" button does this. OK, so how do you know which of the numbered "parts" shown in the tytool list correspond to which part of the source? If you retrieve a part, it's fairly easy to see the beginning as long as tyshow is installed. However, Windows Media Player isn't designed to scroll through non-I-frame video and it freezes. MPC has a tendency to do this as well. If there's a way to get the retrieved tystream segment into a proper viewer, like a DVD player or VirtualDub, you could quickly move around throughout the part and figure out which parts you really need to retrieve.

Hmmm...not as clear as I hoped that would come out. Those people who have tried to work with long recordings know what I'm trying to explain. Those who haven't...might understand.

[bfisher]

Everything was going fine until I started using ty files from DTivo rather than the SA series 1 Tivo. Tytool successfully creates either a vob or mpg, but when I attempt to convert with Drdivx it thinks the 1hr recording is only 9-10 minutes long.

Have you been running unscramble.o or noscramble? DTiVos need one or the other...

- noscramble prevents scrambling... works for future records but not your existing programs.
- unscramble fixes your existing programs.

Do a search for these two files... should help you out.

[FredThompson]

Belay my earlier comment about tyshow and media player classic. I must have done something wrong. The current mpc and tyshow work just fine.

[Fugg]

sorry, just making sure the light (http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98098&highlight=#post98098) still works.
;)

[jdiner]

Alright folks. I am trying my best to get back to work on the FAE stuff today. I have just kind of reached the end of my rope a bit on this stuff. Getting burned out I guess...

--jdiner

[zeddock]

Hang in there!

This week has been "funky" at best. In fact, the new year hasn't been super, either!

But it will be!

-zeddock

[firemunky]

Trying to start tserver on my HDVR2 I get

tserver_mfs7: tserver_mfs7: cannot execute binary file
tivo:/var/hack$

I ran chmod 777 on both it and NowShowing.tcl but can't seem to figue what I'm doing wrong. If I download a .ty larger than 1GB with mfs_ftp, tytool crashes on any attempt at conversion, so trying to get tserver_mfs7 working.


DUH....never mind.....wasn't using the MIPS versions. Now if I could just track down directions to edit the startup file!

[bdl99]

Have you been running unscramble.o or noscramble? DTiVos need one or the other...

- noscramble prevents scrambling... works for future records but not your existing programs.
- unscramble fixes your existing programs.

Do a search for these two files... should help you out.

Yes the source is unscrambled. I also have some further information that may help.

I tried a ty file without adverts in case for some strange reason that was causing the problem, but it made no difference. DrDivx still sees all ty files as between 9-11 minutes long.

Next I tried splitting the ty file in to m2v and m2a files and just processing the video file. DrDivx still reports the file as 8-11 minutes depending on the file. So I guess at this point I can eliminate the audio as a problem.

Any other ideas? DrDivx was a great way of getting my Ty files onto my Archos in avi format so I could watch on the train.

thanks
Brian

[mentat]

I have a relatively short embedded audio error sample from a SA series 1 (no dolby or anything, just regular 2 channel). I'm able to get around it by skipping the sample section. Interestingly the section plays fine in tivo-mplayer. Is this of interest to developers to fix? If so where should I upload it?

Mentat

[pahunt]

Just wanted to say thanks for an excellent tool.

It's taken me a few hours to create my first DVD but it works perfectly I'm sure I'll get quicker as I work out what I'm doing :)

[jdiner]

I have a relatively short embedded audio error sample from a SA series 1 (no dolby or anything, just regular 2 channel). I'm able to get around it by skipping the sample section. Interestingly the section plays fine in tivo-mplayer. Is this of interest to developers to fix? If so where should I upload it?

Please check your PMs. I just sent you the information.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Alright boys and girls...

I forced myself to start working on FAE again tonight. Ran into yet another batch of things I hadn't thought out well enough with the audio and how it now couples to the video.

But as it stands TyTool will FAE with multiple cuts where everything has a frame associated with it. (I.e. the GOP cutting is just plain broken at this time...)

But I have one test going that has cuts in the same GOP, the next GOP, and then 3 minutes apart. All work perfectly. No loss or change in A/V sync. Slick... Really slick.

I have a number of things to test and fix before the first release. Most notably I have to finish the code where either the start or end cut has a field and the opposite end does not. But the hard part is done. At long last. Sync is there and maintained. Everything appears to be working. And the cuts look really really nice.

--jdiner

[jbc]

Great news Josh, one night back and almost done!!! =)

I just got done tyfilesplitting a bunch of spongebob shows to save on disk space, I'll be happy to be done with that step.

[Heinrich]

Looking forward to the new release of this most fun little gadget.

I'm frustrated with chaptering at this point. Typically I just make chapters every 10 or 15 minutes. This always feels lazy, and I made a resolution to write down chapter points as I was watching. I'm just not patient enough to search around in the editor.

With a particular recent show the chapters were darned obvious. So I used the "add chapter point" in "edit key files" utility. Then in "create ISO files" I choose "Chapter Points" instead of "every 10 minutes" and am not getting any chapter points, at least in PowerDVD. Didn't actually burn the DVD and try it in the player. The cuts did work. The documentation mentions something about making chapters at cut points.

Anyway, I'm confused

[del4]

First, thanks for an EXCELLENT tool. After playing with TyStudio and other extraction methods, found TyTool is the best. Unfortunately, I now have more .ty files on my PC than my SA and can't seem to complete the final step!

I'm trying to extract shows off my SA TiVo (Sony SVR2000 w/2 120GB HDD) running 3.0-01-1-010 for burning onto DVD to watch either on my PC or my Toshiba SD-K510 DVD player:

I start by using TyTool (8r3) to extract .ty files onto my PC's HDD, then am able to make the key files, edit the key files to cut out commercials and then create the VOB files using the VOB-Mux Files option. Finally, I choose Make IFO Files/Dirs, create the menu and click on Make IFO.

However, when I'm done, I can't get the resulting files to play on anything, either my PC's DVD player or my Toshiba. Made a few coasters burning the files to DVD-R anyway with both Nero 5.5.4.8 and Roxio 6.2 with no success (get a message 'Check Disc' from the player).

Under Options, I have selected 'Standard MUX Output' and Audo Transcoding: None

I'm very close, but need some help resolving this issue from those on the forum. Thanks in advance for your help!

[FredThompson]

@del4,

Test the created IFO set with PowerDVD or WinDVD. Tell me if that works.

[jdiner]

I'm trying to extract shows off my SA TiVo (Sony SVR2000 w/2 120GB HDD) running 3.0-01-1-010 for burning onto DVD to watch either on my PC or my Toshiba SD-K510 DVD player:

Under Options, I have selected 'Standard MUX Output' and Audo Transcoding: None

For an SA tivo you must transcode the audio. The SA tivos audio data specs are completely wrong for a DVD. Most DVD players won't play them at all.

Change the option to #5 on audio transcoding and try it again.

--jdiner

[FredThompson]

Hang in there!

This week has been "funky" at best. In fact, the new year hasn't been super, either!

But it will be!

-zeddock
It's been pretty good for Charlotte. Sunday might just bowl you over ;)

[chowbok]

I just tried to create a DVD for the first time with TyTool 8r3. I'm trying to make a DVD of several episodes of a half-hour show. I followed the instructions in TyTool8-Dvd and Menu.doc for extraction/editing/VOB/IFO etc. and everything seemed to work fine. The DVD doesn't quite work right, however. When I first play it in my player, the menu shows up and I can play any episode. After that, though, it never lets me get back to the menu. Also, when it gets to the end of whatever episode I picked, it then plays the first episode, then stops. After that, it never allows me to bring the menu back up or play any but the first episode. I have to eject and reinsert the disc before I can get back to the menu.

WinDVD is a little more forgiving—it lets me get back to the menu—but it stops after an episode rather than going on to the next one, and I have to hit "play" again.

Sorry if this has already been covered—I did search but wasn't able to find this issue in the thread. Also, I know I'm probably being too vague but I'm not sure what information is relevant. I'll gladly add more details if necessary.

[Hi8]

I just tried to create a DVD for the first time with TyTool 8r3. I'm trying to make a DVD of several episodes of a half-hour show. I followed the instructions in TyTool8-Dvd and Menu.doc for extraction/editing/VOB/IFO etc. and everything seemed to work fine. The DVD doesn't quite work right, however. When I first play it in my player, the menu shows up and I can play any episode. After that, though, it never lets me get back to the menu. Also, when it gets to the end of whatever episode I picked, it then plays the first episode, then stops. After that, it never allows me to bring the menu back up or play any but the first episode. I have to eject and reinsert the disc before I can get back to the menu.

WinDVD is a little more forgiving—it lets me get back to the menu—but it stops after an episode rather than going on to the next one, and I have to hit "play" again.

Sorry if this has already been covered—I did search but wasn't able to find this issue in the thread. Also, I know I'm probably being too vague but I'm not sure what information is relevant. I'll gladly add more details if necessary.

most likely your DVD player ... some are not TyDVD friendly. Try another settop player if you can.

[jdiner]

When I first play it in my player, the menu shows up and I can play any episode. After that, though, it never lets me get back to the menu. Also, when it gets to the end of whatever episode I picked, it then plays the first episode, then stops. After that, it never allows me to bring the menu back up or play any but the first episode. I have to eject and reinsert the disc before I can get back to the menu.

Use the Title button rather than the menu button to get back to the menu.

The reason it stops is that the generation code was being PC friendly and not DVD player friendly. What you can do is generate all the way through with the TyTool interface. The delete the files found in the VIDEO_TS directory. But only in that sub-dir. Then edit the make.bat file and change the VTSM to VMGM on each line. It will then generate a proper DVD that will return the menu automatically at the end of each show.

Alternatively if you are familiar with hex editors etc... you can edit the tytool exe and replace the VTSM in the code with VMGM and it will do it right every time.

Or you can wait just a little bit longer for the promised features post FAE and it will do it all automatically.

--jdiner

[jdiner]

Alright. The FAE editing is done.

It works quite well. It can be combined with the GOP editing in any combination I could think of. You can have a GOP -> FAE cut. You can have a FAE -> GOP cut. You have FAE -> FAE obviously and GOP -> GOP as well.

All that is needed before the release is a ton of freaking cleanup of the debugging code.

--jdiner

[FredThompson]

Is the 3G pointer issue also cleaned up?

[bluedog68]

Alright. The FAE editing is done.

--jdiner

:D :D :D

This is really great news. It's kind of like Christmas Eve.

One quick question. Did you decide whether or not include the "no menu" option in this release?

[borghe]

No menu would be nice but I usually just keep a nomenu.bat and nomenu.xml file in my dtivodvd directory.. I just add the shows I want into the XML file and run the bat which consists of:

dvdauthor -x nomenu.xml

see the dvdauthor homepage for the layout of the xml.. or the tytool without menu thread on the first or second page here...

[jdiner]

What have I said a half a dozen times in the last 6 weeks or so about these and other features?

--jdiner

[Heinrich]

Anyone have any hints on my chapter confusion?

Thanks

[jdiner]

Anyone have any hints on my chapter confusion?

Yeah. The code isn't there. It was there in some fashion at some point in the past. But these days it isn't there.

It will be going back in, but as I have said I have been focused on the FAE portion. The rest will come as it does.

--jdiner

[Heinrich]

Yeah. The code isn't there. It was there in some fashion at some point in the past. But these days it isn't there.

It will be going back in, but as I have said I have been focused on the FAE portion. The rest will come as it does.

--jdiner


AH that's cool. Im glad that my Alzheimer's isn't acting up again.

YET at least

[jdiner]

Alright. The program has been released.

This thread is closed now in deference to the new one with the latest FAE versions of TyTool.

--jdiner