Putting Movies back on Tivo

[mindless2]

I have a Sat T60.
I had to replace my drives, but I transferred the TY files to my PC first.
I'd like to transfer them back to watch them.
Is there any special process I have to follow to do so?

or do i just add them back into the TY directory??

Thanks
M

[captain_video]

You had to have extracted them in tmf format using mfs_ftp in order to be able to restore them to a Tivo drive. You're SOL if you did it in ty format.

[sanderton]

mfs_ftp can re-insert its own .ty files; not sure about ones extracted with other software.

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by sanderton
mfs_ftp can re-insert its own .ty files; not sure about ones extracted with other software.

a ty file is a ty file, the only possible exception is if you used certain versions of tytool to extract it, as they leave corruption in the header which will possibly make tivoapp freak out.

Originally posted by captain_video
You had to have extracted them in tmf format using mfs_ftp in order to be able to restore them to a Tivo drive. You're SOL if you did it in ty format.

Nah, TY is fine, it just wont preserve the guide data (e.g. title, description, etc) whereas TMF will.

[captain_video]

Nah, TY is fine, it just wont preserve the guide data (e.g. title, description, etc) whereas TMF will.

OK, then how can you tell which show you're playing back, assuming it will even be indicated in the Now Playing list?

[AlphaWolf]

It will just have a generic title, you'll just have to identify it based off of that.

[rc3105]

Originally posted by sanderton
mfs_ftp can re-insert its own .ty files; not sure about ones extracted with other software.

tystudio ty can't be inserted because it doesn't include the header chunks tivoapp requires (reconstructing the headers is a major hassle)

old versions of tytool (alpha #5 or some such) corrupted header chunks during extraction - the original s1 mfs_stdinsert repaired that on the fly during insertion when used via cmd line - the new optomized mfs_stdinsert no longer bothers

mfsstream, mfs_export & tytool ty can be inserted - since it's not available none of the xml info is restored - the recording is given the name of the tyfile being inserted


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Riley

[tivosohn]

Is there an itcl for this insert option as it did for the extract? Or it is too much hassle to write one for that?

[lgkahn]

what do you mean.. once you have inserted you can edit the title anyway through tivoweb....

[tivosohn]

Actually, I am trying to do insert throught the tivoweb, but I only able to find the extract.itcl to have the extract option shows up in the home page. I am trying to find the itcl script for inserting extracted file back into the tivo instead of doing it from command-lines.

[rc3105]

there isn't a tivoweb insert module. how do you propose to upload gig's of data? html forms just won't quite cut it...

[lgkahn]

it is possible..
we have a web form on our software that pops up a file chooser locally on your computer then uploads a file in binary stream mode... then on the server side you would have to run code to rename the file from another field in the form or the original file name and then call a .tcl file or a program that would call the same scripts that mfs_ftp calls to insert the file...

royal pain in the ass but it seems possible...

we use it for customers to upload images that are too dumb to figure out how to use ftp...

here is the form we use note it has to be a specific type

<form METHOD="POST" name="CustomizeProductForm" action="/ma/maStore/cgi-bin/ma_onlinestorecatalog.exe" ENCTYPE="multipart/form-data" onSubmit="return(checkForm());">

<h4>Upload Images</h4>
<TABLE width="750" border="0" align="center">
<TR>
<TD align="center">

<font size="2"><b>Browse your desktop for the image you wish to upload, then select the destination path for your image</b></font></TD></TR>
<TR><TD>

<table width="500" border="0" align="center" >

<tr><td colspan="2"><br><font size="-1">(Use the "Browse" button to select the image to upload.)</font></td></tr>

<tr><td><b>Image Path:</b> </td><td><input type="FILE" name="ImageName" size="40" value=""></td></tr>

<tr><td><b>Destination Path of Image</b></td>
<td><select name="FinalDir">

<option value="d:/marsh/root/images/">/images/</option>



</select></td>
</tr>




</table>

<br>
<div align="center"><input type="SUBMIT" name="Submit" value="Upload"></div>

<input type=hidden name="FinalDirBackSlash" value="">
<input type=hidden name="srcPath" value="">
<input type=hidden name="ImageOnly" value="True">
<input type=hidden name="VM_CGI_RULE" value="submit">
<input type=hidden name="VM_CGI_OBJECT" value="CustomizeProductForm">
<input type="hidden" name="mac" value="uploadimages.mac">
<input type=hidden name="ImageBaseName" value="">
</center>
</form>

</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE><br>



<p align=center>
<a href="/ma/maAdmin/cgi-bin/maadmin.exe?VM_CGI_OBJECT=storebuilder_displayed_page&VM_CGI_EVENT=MerchantLoginPageEv">Admin Login</a>

<!-- **** eo UploadImages.mac -->
<!-- *** eo - StaticLinksPage.mac **** -->
</body> </html>

[AlphaWolf]

there isn't a tivoweb insert module. how do you propose to upload gig's of data? html forms just won't quite cut it...

Embeem was working on that a while back, though that effort kinda dissapeared. The entire TMF spec was created with tivoweb insertions in mind. It'll probably happen one of these days.

[lgkahn]

If somebody can point me in the direction of what tcl scripts need to be called with a .tmf file after a file is uploaded I may be able to get it working easily... but then again I don't remember what we actually did to get the file uploaded... will have to see what it takes ...

[rc3105]

lgkahn:

sure it's possible, finding someone willing to develop / post / support a util designed for folks too dumb to use ftp might be a bit more difficult :eek:

(doesn't get much easier than drag & drop on a browser window, yanno?)


Alphawolf:

19 months & counting since mfs_import went public, don't hold your breath ;)

[AlphaWolf]

19 months & counting since mfs_import went public, don't hold your breath ;)

Many speculated that insertion in general would never happen until somebody *cough* really pushed its development one weekend :P