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homemadesam
03-22-2004, 07:05 PM
I have a Tivo Series 2, I have Comcast Cable and I use a Global cable box which is chipped. Turns out Tivo does not support this cable box brand, so I can't get Tivo to control my cable box, etc,etc...

What can I do?? I obviously dont want to call my cable company and get a a box that wont have the descrambler.

Has anyone else encountered this dilemma?

SG

malfunct
03-22-2004, 07:31 PM
I have a Tivo Series 2, I have Comcast Cable and I use a Global cable box which is chipped. Turns out Tivo does not support this cable box brand, so I can't get Tivo to control my cable box, etc,etc...

What can I do?? I obviously dont want to call my cable company and get a a box that wont have the descrambler.

Has anyone else encountered this dilemma?

SG

It doesn't support the box thorugh IR?

homemadesam
03-22-2004, 07:47 PM
It doesn't support the box thorugh IR?

Only if the box is in the list of boxes that Tivo provides in the set up screen.

malfunct
03-22-2004, 07:49 PM
Only if the box is in the list of boxes that Tivo provides in the set up screen.

Interesting, any chance that comcast can change out your box? I know it varies area by area but up where I am comcast gave me a motorola box that was supported (I think it was morotorla, or maybe it was GE, either way it was supported so maybe they have a solution for you).

PlainBill
03-22-2004, 09:18 PM
I have a Tivo Series 2, I have Comcast Cable and I use a Global cable box which is chipped. Turns out Tivo does not support this cable box brand, so I can't get Tivo to control my cable box, etc,etc...

What can I do?? I obviously dont want to call my cable company and get a a box that wont have the descrambler.

Has anyone else encountered this dilemma?

SG

Hmmm, last I heard, 'chipped' refered to a hack which allowed you to get all channels. Generally the best solution is to go with a legal cable box. More so since discussions including theft of service are forbidden here.

PlainBill

captain_video
03-22-2004, 09:19 PM
He's using a hacked cable box (i.e. "chipped") to avoid paying for cable which is why he doesn't want Comcast to swap it out. This is something you'll have to work out for yourself.

Sleeper
03-22-2004, 10:17 PM
Hmmm. This definitely borders on theft of service. It's just not DirectTv or Tivo.

Now my curiousity is wakening. I wonder where the IR codes map is stored. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

homemadesam
03-23-2004, 01:59 AM
Ok, after reading the replies I'm a little confused. Since I am a newbie, I just assumed that when you all refer to hacking into your Tivo that what you were doing was bordering on illegal. That's why I posted my thread.

Sorry if I broke any rules, it was a mistake!

chaeberle
03-23-2004, 06:47 AM
Ok, after reading the replies I'm a little confused. Since I am a newbie, I just assumed that when you all refer to hacking into your Tivo that what you were doing was bordering on illegal. That's why I posted my thread.
No - this forum only voids warranties by applying hacks which DO NOT STEAL SERVICE.

Extraction is a legal grey area -afaik most people here are using extraction for the purposes of archiving shows to DVD which they recorded legally in the same way we can archive them to VHS.

homemadesam
03-23-2004, 01:40 PM
Got it. Well, I will have to figure out a way to find the IR codes map on the hard drive and try and hack it so it works with my cable box.

TheWickedPriest
03-23-2004, 02:19 PM
Since I am a newbie, I just assumed that when you all refer to hacking into your Tivo that what you were doing was bordering on illegal.The word "hacking" IN NO WAY implies illegality. This is a sad misconception that has grown up over the years, due to misuse of the term by ignorant reporters et al. "Hacking" is a term which covers a broad spectrum of activity, both legal and illegal.

It is fair to say that one definition of hacking is "doing what they don't want you to do". However, just because someone like Tivo, Inc., doesn't want you to do something, that doesn't mean that it's illegal. There are all sorts of legal activities that corporations would prefer you not engage in. They'd like to keep you locked in a nice little "consumer" box. To this end, they even have sometimes managed to enact laws, like the DMCA, which fly in the face of common sense and the Constitution. But many things can still be done, legally, whether they like it or not.

A slightly better definition of hacking, when it comes to hardware devices like the Tivo, might be "making it do what it wasn't designed to do". That's what we do here. We escape the consumer box.

psxboy
03-23-2004, 02:27 PM
Here here, Wicked! :) Well stated.

Blame the media for bastardizing the "Hacker" name. The term originated at MIT, and was a good thing back then. Being a hacker in those days meant you were looked at with a certain respect for your knowledge and creativity. Now, every script-kiddie and vandal that manages to gain access to someone's website is called a "hacker".

Why not call them what they are? People who deface websites are vandals. People who break into corporate networks are trespassers. People who steal corporate secrets by breaking into a corporate network and selling them to rival companies are corporate spys. People who threaten to bring down someone's network if they don't give them money/a job/an account/etc. are blackmailers... You get the point. We already have labels for these kind of things. Just because it involves a computer doesn't make the perpetrator a "hacker".

-psxboy

homemadesam
03-24-2004, 02:41 PM
Here here, Wicked! :) Well stated.

Blame the media for bastardizing the "Hacker" name. The term originated at MIT, and was a good thing back then. Being a hacker in those days meant you were looked at with a certain respect for your knowledge and creativity. Now, every script-kiddie and vandal that manages to gain access to someone's website is called a "hacker".

Why not call them what they are? People who deface websites are vandals. People who break into corporate networks are trespassers. People who steal corporate secrets by breaking into a corporate network and selling them to rival companies are corporate spys. People who threaten to bring down someone's network if they don't give them money/a job/an account/etc. are blackmailers... You get the point. We already have labels for these kind of things. Just because it involves a computer doesn't make the perpetrator a "hacker".

-psxboy





Does anyone know how to access the IR codes map on a TIVO series 2?

Lakatariba
03-27-2004, 02:33 AM
If you run out of options or have some free time, you can build your own IR codes.

The aussies have some great docs on this - they've had to do much from scratch given their equipment tends to differ greatly from that available on TiVo's home turf.

http://minnie.tuhs.org/twiki/bin/view/Howtoir/WebHome