How to just restore a backup

[mcmikemc]

I have run SLeeper's ISO a few times and seem to be having problems installing the haxs. I want to know if there is a way I can just restore the backup I put on a spare 10 gig to my new 120 gig drive. Right now I have to first backup the original Tivo drive then I can restore it.

[acr2001]

COME ON MAN!!!!
Do a search! "mfsrestore" "mfsbackup"
"mfstools" <-- thats the name of the iso you need to download.
mfstools will allow you to backup and restore tivo images.
Its VERY well documented.

[mcmikemc]

Thanks,

I was pretty busy installing an AC unit in my house and having to go into work yesterday. My total computer time yesterday was a little under one hour. I figured the only way for me to find out by this morning was just to ask.

[webwide]

Thanks,

I was pretty busy installing an AC unit in my house and having to go into work yesterday. My total computer time yesterday was a little under one hour. I figured the only way for me to find out by this morning was just to ask.

Asking is dangerous, reading is safe. ;)

You can also skip steps when using Sleeper's CD - you could skip the backup step by pressing another key + the enter key at the same time, then start with the restore phase.

[mcmikemc]

Thanks,

I knew when I asked that question that I would get atleast one person telling em to read but I just wanted to know yesterday and really did not have the time to read ( you must admit that there is ALOT to sift threw ).

I have been reading and posting since I woke up this morning. I just could not wait to get up and get a hole day of hacking in.

[SR712]

Don't be in too much of a hurry. This takes a little time to understand. And, be sure you keep the original TiVo drive unchanged, make a backup, and restore it to a another "hacking" drive.

[mcmikemc]

I am doing the backup. I am supper anal about backups ( I am an IT guy ). I got my original virgin Tivo drive in an anti static bag sitting in my safe.

Has anybody else noticed that the hard drives in the Tivos never go off. I put my Tivo on standby and touched the hard drive to see if it was warm and every time I did it was hot. This really concerns me becasue the drive I put in there is not designed to perform like this ( Seagate 120 gig ). Most IDE drive spend 90% of their life just sitting there doing nothing. I have a bad feeling that the drive is going to crap out on me in 3-6 months if I can't find a way to force it not to spin the platters all the time ( I don't want to have to unplug it every night ).

[acr2001]

Sorry if i sounded a little too evil....
I was just sayin...a search would have worked too.
Dont confuse me with DB. :D

[mcmikemc]

I am not pissed man. The way I look at is, you guys are helping me. I am not going to get pissed at anybody helping me out.

If you need info on DVD authoring let me know ( I saw and replied to your post ). I have been doing it for a few years now.

[acr2001]

I am doing the backup. I am supper anal about backups ( I am an IT guy ). I got my original virgin Tivo drive in an anti static bag sitting in my safe.

Has anybody else noticed that the hard drives in the Tivos never go off. I put my Tivo on standby and touched the hard drive to see if it was warm and every time I did it was hot. This really concerns me becasue the drive I put in there is not designed to perform like this ( Seagate 120 gig ). Most IDE drive spend 90% of their life just sitting there doing nothing. I have a bad feeling that the drive is going to crap out on me in 3-6 months if I can't find a way to force it not to spin the platters all the time ( I don't want to have to unplug it every night ).

Hard Drives DO die a lot more often in TiVo's Than they do in pc's from what ive seen here on the forums.
Theres really no way to get the drives to spin down.
Many people confuse the mislabeled STANDBY feature with the windows standby. When you put a tivo into standby all your doing is allowing the antenna passthrough to become active and shutting down the video output. All other components of the tivo remain normal and it saves little if any power.
The reason the drive stays on at all times is because there are lots of things for the Tivo to do even in the middle of the night such as daily calls, downloading stuff off the satellite stream, and recording infomercials.
I wouldnt worry about the drive, when it goes, it goes. :eek:

[mcmikemc]

Well as an IT guy I am paid to worrie about up time and its hard for me not to worrie about this. I find it very hard to belive that the Tivo is doing enough processes that it needs the hard drive to be spinning all the time. The manufactures did not design these drives to be operated like this, thats what SCSI is for.

I am going to try some find a solution for this besides putting a fan on the drive.

1)I am going to try and find a hacked firmware that will force my drive to spin at a lower speed and disable the 8mb of cahce to 2 mb. I don't know if my drive has one but I know that there are ones for a few Wester Digitals

2)Make a switch that will cut the power to the drive. But I got a good feeling that this will cause the Tivo to crash.

[webwide]

Speaking of hard drive heat, what is the optimal temperature range for a TiVo unit? (HDVR2 specifically)

My new WD160GB drive is hanging out at around 41-42C

Well as an IT guy I am paid to worrie about up time and its hard for me not to worrie about this. I find it very hard to belive that the Tivo is doing enough processes that it needs the hard drive to be spinning all the time. The manufactures did not design these drives to be operated like this, thats what SCSI is for.

I am going to try some find a solution for this besides putting a fan on the drive.

1)I am going to try and find a hacked firmware that will force my drive to spin at a lower speed and disable the 8mb of cahce to 2 mb. I don't know if my drive has one but I know that there are ones for a few Wester Digitals

2)Make a switch that will cut the power to the drive. But I got a good feeling that this will cause the Tivo to crash.

[sanderton]

Well as an IT guy I am paid to worrie about up time and its hard for me not to worrie about this. I find it very hard to belive that the Tivo is doing enough processes that it needs the hard drive to be spinning all the time. The manufactures did not design these drives to be operated like this, thats what SCSI is for.

I am going to try some find a solution for this besides putting a fan on the drive.

1)I am going to try and find a hacked firmware that will force my drive to spin at a lower speed and disable the 8mb of cahce to 2 mb. I don't know if my drive has one but I know that there are ones for a few Wester Digitals

2)Make a switch that will cut the power to the drive. But I got a good feeling that this will cause the Tivo to crash.

Don't stress about it. Most TiVos are recording 24/7 (I know some US ones don't). My TiVo hard drives have had about 8 years of continuous 24/7 up time between them, and I've only had one problem.

Switching the drive off will 100% definitely crash the TiVo; it frequently accesses the db.

Plus there are the (valid IMHO) arguments that frequent power cyling a drive rather than just leaving it spining is going to make it more likely to fail, not less.

[PlainBill]

Speaking of hard drive heat, what is the optimal temperature range for a TiVo unit? (HDVR2 specifically)

My new WD160GB drive is hanging out at around 41-42C

That seems to be typical. From the console output:
Start fan control...
Terminal temp: 71
Critical temp: 62
Logging temp: 60
Target temp: 50

PlainBill

[Lowcarb]

I find it very hard to belive that the Tivo is doing enough processes that it needs the hard drive to be spinning all the time.

What the TiVo is ALWAYS doing is keeping your 30 minutes of TV buffer written to the HD. TiVo doesnt know if your TV monitor is turned on or off. TiVo doesn't know if you left the room. DTivo doesn't know if you might switch back the the 2nd receiver channel in a few minutes or not.

If you want to spinn down the drives you are going to have to start with disabling the buffer first. IMHO it won't be a Tivo any longer. It won't even be a decent DVR. But if you want it, go right ahead.



1)I am going to try and find a hacked firmware that will force my drive to spin at a lower speed and disable the 8mb of cahce to 2 mb. I don't know if my drive has one but I know that there are ones for a few Wester Digitals

2)Make a switch that will cut the power to the drive. But I got a good feeling that this will cause the Tivo to crash.

Go with that feeling ;)

[acr2001]

Point is, theres nothing you can do without ruining the tivo. The off switch idea wont work, itll be the same as pulling the plug since youll crash the system.

Coming up with a firmware / software that will allow the drive to spin down is definitly as close to impossible as you can get. Even if you can do it, you will be totally ruining the software.