Caller ID S2 Dtivo?

[Darwin23]

Can't seem to find any info on this. Could some one please point me to the Caller ID hack for S2 Direct Tivo's.

thanks :)

[JJBliss]

Can't seem to find any info on this. Could some one please point me to the Caller ID hack for S2 Direct Tivo's.

thanks :)


Did you search for elseed ? Or YAC ? What did you find out so far ?

[Darwin23]

Fond elseed, but only seems to be for S1. I installed it to my tivo and chmod +x elseed
elseed
bash: ./elseed: cannot execute binary file

[JJBliss]

Fond elseed, but only seems to be for S1.


That's correct. On-screen displays have been somewhat probalematic for a while on S2s, but there have been some enhancements to OSD recently that might help.


I installed it to my tivo and chmod +x elseed
elseed
bash: ./elseed: cannot execute binary file

Did you recompile it for MIPS?

[Darwin23]

Don't know how to recompile :(

Was hoping for a package install for S2 Dtivo, but it does not seem that there is one.

Strange, hacking for extraction was easy yet this simple hack seems to have me stuck. :eek:

[Darwin23]

Ok got it working. Now one last thing..............

[PixelFreak]

Ok got it working. Now one last thing..............
OK, you got it to work, but how about posting HOW you got it to work for all of us newbies watching your thread? ;)

I would also like to know how you did this, especially without having your Tivo "phone home" by hooking up a phone line to see the Caller ID.

Any help would be appreciated.

PixelFreak

[erhan]

It's all here (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28609)

If you have fixsub setup properly, Tivo will not need to call home. However, just to be on the safe side, you can put a capacitor on the phone cable going the wall to allow incoming data but no outbound calls.

[my04accord]

where can you buy those?

[PlainBill]

where can you buy those?

Radio Shack. :eek:

PlainBill

[AlphaWolf]

where can you buy those?

Just build it, it will cost you a dollar. I used 6k OHMs worth of capacitors, a spliced phone cord, electrical tape, solder, and a small plastic box with holes cut in it.

[PlainBill]

Just build it, it will cost you a dollar. I used 6k OHMs worth of capacitors, a spliced phone cord, electrical tape, solder, and a small plastic box with holes cut in it.


:rolleyes:

PlainBill

[mikeycbd]

The files mentioned in the attached how-to that I used are here:
http://www.xybyre.net/tivo/

[Lowcarb]

Just build it, it will cost you a dollar. I used 6k OHMs worth of capacitors, a spliced phone cord, electrical tape, solder, and a small plastic box with holes cut in it.

OK, so how many Farads of resistors would I use again? :D

Seriously, I've looked at a couple of caller ID box schematics.
One had a 0.1uF cap in series with a 500k Ohm resistor on both Tip and Ring lines. The other had 0.01uF cap and 10K Ohm resistor on both Tip and Ring lines.

What did you wire up AlphaWolf (or anyone else who has done this)?

TIP o------|(---/\/\/\/---------o

RING o------|(---/\/\/\/---------o

[JJBliss]

I did it with a 4.7k resistor.

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showpost.php?p=45344&postcount=109

[PlainBill]

This is one of those electronics problems that has SEVERAL solutions. The purpose of putting a component in there is to prevent the DirecTiVo from getting a dial tone. The phone line 'on hook' is normally at about 50 volts with a nominal 600 ohm impedance. When it goes 'off hook' the phone puts a very low (< 20 ohm) DC resistance on the line. This tells the central office you want to make a call, and it generates the dial tone. We want to prevent the line from being pulled below about 10 volts. There are two ways to accomplish this: A sufficintly large resistor will work, or a capacitor will also do the job.

A resistor is easy to use - it is small, inexpensive, and rugged. It can even be spliced into a phone cord. Unfortunately, it also attenuates the caller id tones, so there is a relatively small range of values which will pass the tones, but not generate a dial tone.

A capacitor presents a very high DC resistance, but very low AC impedance, so it will not allow the DirecTiVo to get a dial tone, but will pass the caller ID tones. Unfortunately, capacitors come in several types, and the temptation is to use an electrolytic capacitor because of their low cost. However, electrolytics have a significant DC leakage AND are polarized. Hook one up backwards and it will short out - no damage will be done EXCEPT your DirecTiVo will once again get a dial tone.

Ceramic capacitors are cheap, and are not polarized, but large vaue ceramic capacitors typicall have a working voltage of 50 volts or less. I've had .1 uf ceramic capacitors short in a 5 volt circuit.

The best type of capacitor is a metal film (AKA plastic, formerly paper) cap. I suggest the Radio Shack 252-1055 1 uf, 250 volt part. Unfortunately, it's bulky, so you can't hide it in a phone cord, and it costs about $1.50.

:confused:? We now return you to our regularly scheduled thread.

PlainBill

[my04accord]

Ok, this is what i found on radioshack http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F002%5F004%5F002&product%5Fid=272%2D1055
is this right? Aslo if it is which wire should it be attached to, specifically which color. I am not very fluent in how phones work. Thanks.

[PlainBill]

Ok, this is what i found on radioshack http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F002%5F004%5F002&product%5Fid=272%2D1055
is this right? Aslo if it is which wire should it be attached to, specifically which color. I am not very fluent in how phones work. Thanks.

Quoting Bill Murray (Tripper) in Meatballs "IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!" (As long as it goes in one of the two center - red or green wires).

PlainBill

[hxmiller]

Parts:
Leviton 2 port surface mount box
2 RJ Jacks
2 RJ 11 patch cables
1 pair cross connect wire
1 uf, 250 volt part metal film capacitor (Radio Shack part #272-1055)

Steps:
- Cut blue/white wire in half and strip 1 end of each half
- Solder (or connect another way) 1 half of each wire to the capacitor and cover with shrink tube or electrical tape
- punch down the blue wire between the 2 RJ jacks
- punch down each end of the capacitor wires to the RJ jacks
- pack parts into box
- connect RJ patch cables (1 to wall and 1 to TIVO)

Result:
Caller ID inbound, however no dial tone for TIVO.

[Jtw_124]

hxmiller, thanks for the photos. Very helpful.

Slightly noobish question here, but do the "arms" of the capacitor need to be so long? I've got one here I'm about to install and I was tempted to cut the 1.5 inch metal arms back so that the capacitor doesn't take up so much space. Something tells me thats not a good idea, but I can't imagine why the electrical signal would need to travel through that much wire before getting inside the capacitor.

Thanks

[PlainBill]

hxmiller, thanks for the photos. Very helpful.

Slightly noobish question here, but do the "arms" of the capacitor need to be so long? I've got one here I'm about to install and I was tempted to cut the 1.5 inch metal arms back so that the capacitor doesn't take up so much space. Something tells me thats not a good idea, but I can't imagine why the electrical signal would need to travel through that much wire before getting inside the capacitor.

Thanks

Quoting Bill Murray (Tripper) in Meatballs "IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!" . Don't cut them so short you melt the cap while soldering the leads. The telephone line runs miles from the central office. An extra couple of inches won't make any difference.

PlainBill