Help with new DSR704???

[racolon]

Hi!

I was wondering if anybody can give out some suggestions on a DSR704.

I just bought this unit and subscribed, however I dont have a phoneline at the house and it wont let me record unless it makes a call.

I have an older unit that I loaded xtreme software and it never has to call home. Is this possible on the new units or am I "SOL"?

I am very familiar with the PC and I do not mind opening the DTIVO to load files at all. I have done it on my old one and it worked fine. I have also read that you can enable the USB ports and make the call via network and that would be fine with me since I have a network connection close to the DTIVO.

Any suggestions please?????

[captain_video]

Look for Sleeper's Tivoscript in the series 2 support section.

[racolon]

Thank you for the kind reply! I have the iso burned in a cd and I can boot from the cd. When I choose the p option to back up it tells me that there is no fat32 HD as a primary master. I know for a fact that the primary master fat32 formatted and that it is set to master jumper wise.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

[bkavs]

I was actually going to post earlier, I got hung up where your at,,,,
Use 'm' monte mode, not 'p', things will go much smoother...you should be fine after that....

[racolon]

Too late.... I used P and skipped the back up option. Now I'm, stuck at the welcome screen......

[PlainBill]

Too late.... I used P and skipped the back up option. Now I'm, stuck at the welcome screen......


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

PlainBill

[racolon]

I have another unit that has not been touched. Anybody wants to give some input before I mess this one up?

[almontebarnes]

I have another unit that has not been touched. Anybody wants to give some input before I mess this one up?

No, really, use 'm' not 'p'. Try it on the unit you've already done before touching your other unit. 'p' simply ain't gonna work for you, not ever, ever.

[captain_video]

Select the "m" option to perform the mote hack. The first step will perform a backup of the Tivo drive. Make a backup of the good drive and then restore the image to the one you hosed. It is strongly suggested that you use a different drive to perform the hacks on so you have a good drive to fall back on if you screw things up. The idea is to look (in this case, read) before you leap so you avoid problems like the one you encountered.

[racolon]

Thanks for the reply. The main problem that I am having now is that it will not detect the required fat32 drive. As mentioned before I am not a computer stupid and I kno how to set up a master and slave drive. I have tried the setup on 2 different PC's using the fat32 drive on the primary master. The Boot cd on the primary slave and the TIVO drive in the secondary master just as I read on the Slepper's guide.

This always happens on the first step which is the backup step. And it always comes back with the same error "FAT32 drive not detected on primary master" MFStools aborted"

Same error on 2 different PC's. I have deleted the partition on the back up drive and created a new partition of the whole 80 gigs and formatted to fta32. Now for some odd reason when I create the partition it tells me that it is fat32X and not just fat32. I think this is caused by the western digital partitioning software. Do I need to just format staright from OLD DOS?

Any suggestions?

Once again thanks......

[PlainBill]

Thanks for the reply. The main problem that I am having now is that it will not detect the required fat32 drive. As mentioned before I am not a computer stupid and I kno how to set up a master and slave drive. I have tried the setup on 2 different PC's using the fat32 drive on the primary master. The Boot cd on the primary slave and the TIVO drive in the secondary master just as I read on the Slepper's guide.

This always happens on the first step which is the backup step. And it always comes back with the same error "FAT32 drive not detected on primary master" MFStools aborted"

Same error on 2 different PC's. I have deleted the partition on the back up drive and created a new partition of the whole 80 gigs and formatted to fta32. Now for some odd reason when I create the partition it tells me that it is fat32X and not just fat32. I think this is caused by the western digital partitioning software. Do I need to just format staright from OLD DOS?

Any suggestions?

Once again thanks......


First of all, you REALLY need to read the Sleeper's TiVoScripts support thread. You are making typical mistakes, and are likely to trash BOTH original drives.

Second, you don't seem to know the difference between fat and fat32. This leads me to suspect you're not quite as computer savy as you think.

This ISN'T rocket science (obviously - I'm:rolleyes: able to use TiVoScripts), but it does require you follow the procedure carefully AND have at least a rudimentary knowledge of how the TiVo, TiVoScripts, and Linux work.

For what it's worth, you must use Win 95B or C, Win98, Win 98SE, or Win ME to format the backup drive.

PlainBill

[tytyty]

This always happens on the first step which is the backup step. And it always comes back with the same error "FAT32 drive not detected on primary master" MFStools aborted"


Some systems (dell, gateway) have a non fat partition for restores.

btw woohoo 400 posts :)

[racolon]

Thanks for the reply PlainBill. It would be really nice if you post a link to the support thread. I am also installing Windows98 on one of the PC's to format the drive. In the mea time I did a test by formatting the back up drive using the old dos method and it said that it completed the backup 100%. Then it told me to shut down, remove the Tivo drive from PC and install the new Tivo Drive as The master andthat it would continue on its own after reboot. I got an error when I got to the surgery portion. could you please advise on what the procedure should be. That way when my backup drive is ready I can be ready for it.

I never said I was a computer eng. but i am not an ***** when it comes to them...

Once again thanks...

[RKone]

It sounds as you're formatting the target drive, which is wrong. You need 3 hard drives for the tivoscripts process, although you only mount 2 at a time. The backup drive needs to have a fat32 partition as its first partition. You also need your original tivo drive, and you'll need a target drive which will be overwritten with the final product.

The backup drive should always be mounted as primary master, your cdrom should always be mounted as primary slave.

You start tivoscripts with the original drive mounted as secondary master, and tivoscripts backs up all the data from that drive to your backup drive.

Then the original drive is removed, and shouldn't be touched again. You then mount your target drive as secondary master. The scripts then restores the data from the backup drive onto the target drive, and then applies all the hacks.

[racolon]

Thanks for the info. That is what I am doing and it finally did the back up, restored to the target drive and applied the hacks. However, I'm still getting the msg saying that the unit needs to call home before using the DVR features.

Do I need to let it call home at least one time before doing the hacks?

I dont have a home phone and that the only reason why I'm trying this things, so I can enable the record feature without having a phone line.

If needed I can always go to my neighbors house and let the unit call home once and then do the whole thing again.

Is this what we need to do?

Thanks for the help.... I'm getting there....

[RKone]

You don't need to let it phone home, I don't have a land line either, my tivo has never been hooked up to a phone line.

Did you finish the hacks phase without error? One of the programs tivoscripts installs during this phase, fixsub31, configures the tivo so it doesn't need to call out. Try restarting your tivo and see if it comes back with the same problem.

[racolon]

After restart it comes back with the same problem. Yes all the hacks finished without any errors. I read a post in the support thread where a user sid that he ws having the same problem because he never let his call home before the hacks.

Both units acting the same way but They have never called home, not even to setup dvr service.

System information shows DVR activated but it still wants to call home when I press the record button.

[RKone]

At this point, you'll likely have to get telnet access working to find out what the problem is.

[PlainBill]

After restart it comes back with the same problem. Yes all the hacks finished without any errors. I read a post in the support thread where a user sid that he ws having the same problem because he never let his call home before the hacks.

Both units acting the same way but They have never called home, not even to setup dvr service.

System information shows DVR activated but it still wants to call home when I press the record button.

You definitely are getting close. You've probably mentioned this, but the systems are subscribed with DirecTV, correct?

I believe there are two solutions possible. The easy one is to take either (or both) of the systems to some place that has a land based phone line and let it call home. (I dn't think they will have to have a satellite connection at that time, but perhaps someone can confirm that). The other is to download 3.1.1b or 3.1.1c software, and use that. If your systems are not at 3.1.1b or above, I would DEFINITELY recommend that you get them to that level.

The main support thread for Sleeper's TiVoScripts is a sticky in the Series 2 support forum. The title is 'Sleeper's Iso: Series 2 scripts....'

Please give me a little more information on using DOS to format the backup drive. What version of DOS was this?

PlainBill

[racolon]

You definitely are getting close. You've probably mentioned this, but the systems are subscribed with DirecTV, correct?


Please give me a little more information on using DOS to format the backup drive. What version of DOS was this?

PlainBill

Thanks PlainBill!

As far as DOS formatting I used a boot disk and copied the FDISK and Format comands from the Windows98 CD. Then just did the normal FDISK partitioning and Format c: /s. It took forever but it worked.

The other option that I found to work was to install Win98 on my backup drive and it also worked.

What I found that DID NOT worked was using the formatting software that comes with the drives such as Western Digital or Maxtor.

Should I let the receivers call home before or after scripts are installed?

Yes, both units are subscribed and fully legit.

Sometimes I wish I had spend the $$$ and bought 2 older DTIVO's instead of the new ones.

[PlainBill]

Thanks PlainBill!

As far as DOS formatting I used a boot disk and copied the FDISK and Format comands from the Windows98 CD. Then just did the normal FDISK partitioning and Format c: /s. It took forever but it worked.

The other option that I found to work was to install Win98 on my backup drive and it also worked.

What I found that DID NOT worked was using the formatting software that comes with the drives such as Western Digital or Maxtor.

Should I let the receivers call home before or after scripts are installed?

Yes, both units are subscribed and fully legit.

Sometimes I wish I had spend the $$$ and bought 2 older DTIVO's instead of the new ones.


Thanks for clearing the DOS issue up. I would have been surprised if formatting a drive with DOS 6.22 would have worked. :)

I would have them call home BEFORE installing the scripts.

I've hacked both a DSR6000 using Xtreme 2.5 and Xupgrade; and an HDVR2 using Sleeper's TiVoScripts. Xtreme was easier, but it also does a lot less. Compare the cost of networking a Series 1 vrs a Series 2.

PlainBill

[psxboy]

I would recommend staying away from any Maxtor or Western Digital formatting utilities like the plague...

Used to be, way back in the old days before most PC BIOS's had native support for drives larger than 2Gigs, you had to use this ridiculous "drive overlay" software in order to access areas of the hard drive above the 2Gig mark. While it solved the 2Gig barrier issue, it created a non-standard partition on the drive that could only be accessed when running the overlay software.

It appears that the Maxtor & Western Digital format utilities are still installing this archaic drive overlay software and creating these non-standard partitions. While Windows will operate properly with a drive setup by these formatting utilities, most other OSes (including Linux) will balk when they encounter them. And it causes all sorts of problems with data-recovery should you have a problem down the line.

Your best course of action is to keep a copy of the Win98 boot disk tucked away. You can use it to create/delete standard FAT & FAT32 partitions in a pinch.

-psxboy

[racolon]

Well, after letting my units call home and then running scripts verything seems to be working. The unit says that the next call is scheduled on the 27th of this month. I hope I dont run into problems that day....

Thanks a lot to all that had the patience to help me out.

And if you want to pass some of the overflow of new users to me, I'll be more than happy to assist in whatever way I can.