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BovineD
05-17-2004, 01:14 AM
I have tried looking for the solution myself but the problem is that there seems to be 5 ways yo do everything and that alot of these instructions start halfway or assume one type of program over another so I would love some suggestions.

I had upgraded my DSR6000 version 3.1.0b with two 120gig maxtors a couple of months ago and just this weeken installed my Turbonet card to use for vid extraction only.

I used the information and software for steve Jenkins site and everything seemed fine with FTP and Tivoweb working great but of course he does not go over vid extraction. I then decided to follow install information for Tystudio and was able to get it working up to the point where Tyserver and Tyindex were installed but when I run Tystudio on my PC none of shows are indexed after 36 hours and when I go to download one it stays at 0 percent no matter what I do.

I then started looking around these forums and there seems to be an issue maybe with my Tivo files being encrypted but I do not know how to use the unscramble.o with my existing setup or if even that would resolve my issue.

Also there seems to be alternatives to what I have been trying but when I try to use mfs_ftp it seems to conflict with my existing tivoftpd program. Then I tried to use ciphercheck to even see if that was the issue but I guess I am not experienced enough yet with all the file commands. When do I bash to install or run a particular program? Or when do I use the command line program name to start a process? Is the chmod 755 command neccessary for all programs I load intoTivo?

As you might be able to tell I have dove into a mess at this point and would like some advice on how to get out or just some information to move me along.

Any help is much appreciated!

BovineD
05-17-2004, 11:49 PM
Some more questions....

For my system, do I need to use noscramble.o or unscramble.o? From what I see unscramble will allow me to extract the existing recordings on my Tivo but after that I should run noscramble so that all future recordings are not scrambled is that correct?

Also, can I just use the two daemons above without any additional apps? I just have tyserver, tyindex, tivoftpd and tivoweb on my DSR6000 unit.

Again any help would be much appreciated.

enchntr
05-18-2004, 09:33 AM
Follow this:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31213

You will need to patch Tivoapp, then insmod the unscramble.o module to get all your old recordings off.

BovineD
05-18-2004, 04:09 PM
Thanks for the information enchntr!

So does that mean I have to install Tivoapp first? Stupid question: what is Tivoapp? Is that a different suite or collection of apps that I install on the Tivo to handle all the programs and hacks and replaces all the stuff that I have put on there already? Or does it work in conjunction with what I have already?

Where do I get Tivoapp?

thanks again.

BovineD
05-18-2004, 04:24 PM
Okay sorry about that, I am going to try and end my noobness, or at least curb it a little.

For what I can gather I first need to install Tivoapp from here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~garyw90/TivoApp.zip

From reading the directions I am not entirely clear on how to do this. Most apps refer to a modules library directory but I do not have that for some reason and my Tivowb is just sitting in a /var/hacks/bin directory. Is that basically the same thing?

I guess I have not installed enough apps yet to know exactly how to do this. Anyone else use this setup and can offer some asisstance?

enchntr
05-18-2004, 04:26 PM
You are technically patching Tivoapp to stop descrambling on the box (Tivoapp is part of the OS on a Tivo). In the thread I posted, it gives you explicit instructions as to how to do this with 3.1.0b on a S1.

Once done and rebooted, your Tivo won't be recording anything scrambled. However, your old recordings will still be scrambled, and this is why unscramble.o is important, as it will unscramble those recordings for extraction.

enchntr
05-18-2004, 04:28 PM
Tivoapp resides in /tvbin (if I remember correctly) so please don't download another one. Follow the directions in the thread and you will be fine.

BovineD
05-18-2004, 07:10 PM
Thank you so much for your help enchntr, I will give this a shot tonight.

BovineD
05-19-2004, 03:45 AM
Okay, not sure if I am getting anywhere yet but here is what I have done.

I ran the commands to take off the scrambing by inputting the commands:

echo -ne "\x48\x00\x00\x38" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=4678456

I assume this means that all future recordings will be unscrambled.

I saved the file unscramble_s1.tar.zip and unzipped it using winzip.

It gave me a file unscramble.tar

Then I installed and ran unscramble.o by FTPing the binary unscramble.tar and installing by using:

cpio -H tar -i < unscramble.tar

then I ran unscramble using:

insmod unscramble.o

Then I played the first 5 minutes of a 30 minute show manually on my Tivo.

I then used Tystudio editor to try and extract that same program to my PC by clicking on the "click here to load from Now Showing"

The problem is that none of my shows are indexed (they all show NO) and when I go to copy it to my PC it just stays at zero percent.

Any ideas on what I may have wrong with this setup?

Thanks again for any help.

enchntr
05-19-2004, 10:49 AM
Can't really talk to TyStudio as I use TyTool exclusively. I would think that if you have a decent amount of shows already recorded that it could take a while to re-index the database though.

BovineD
05-20-2004, 03:53 PM
enchntr I thank you very much for all your help. I installed TyTools last night and was able to extract my scrambled shows without any problems. Now to find the right encoder and start burning away.

Again I thank you for the help.

enchntr
05-20-2004, 04:22 PM
Take a look at the extraction forum, as it contains a wealth of information regarding editing, burning, etc. However, TyTool also can create the VOB and IFO files for DVD burning if you're so inclined.

Good Luck!