TMF to TY...Easiest way please

[rfc]

S1 Dtivo; Used unscramble.o and mfs_ftp to extract TMFs to PC hard drive. Would like to try making a dvd before returning shows to another Dtivo. Tried to use tmf2ty.cfg, but can't figure out the path thing, and can't find a read me.

Is there an easier way to get a TMF to a TY so I can use TY Editor or whatever to make a DVD? Getting a headache, bigtime. TIA. :confused:

[Waruwaru]

I would recommend you to download ty files using tserver and create your DVDs. I have not been able to use Tytools (9r13) with any of the ty files I grabbed via mfs_ftp. Check out this link (http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/extraction_articles/tivo_dvd.html) for a simple step by step. Not sure what my problem is. If you are interested in moving recordings from one tivo to another, then you have to use mfs_ftp. :o

[ronnythunder]

get the tmf file and a tar binary on some common machine (windows, linux, etc.). use "tar xf" to extract the parts, then concat them back together (use "cat" on linux, use "copy /b part01.ty + part0n.ty" on dos/windows).

the result is a ty file

ronny

[rfc]

get the tmf file and a tar binary on some common machine (windows, linux, etc.). use "tar xf" to extract the parts, then concat them back together (use "cat" on linux, use "copy /b part01.ty + part0n.ty" on dos/windows).

the result is a ty file

ronny

Not quite there yet. How about this:

1 Use Winzip to extract the parts. Never tried a .tmf file before, but in the thread Sanderton mentions, rc3105 says it will work.

2 Then open each in Textpad and just put them together.

3 Save the result as a .ty file

Am I missing something?


And Waruwaru: Yes, I DO want to transfer these back to another Dtivo. I just thought this would be an excellent learning adventure along the way. I probably will try working with all ty files as you suggest next, but wanted to do it this way once. :)

[JohnSorTivo]

I would recommend you to download ty files using tserver and create your DVDs. I have not been able to use Tytools (9r13) with any of the ty files I grabbed via mfs_ftp. Check out this link (http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/extraction_articles/tivo_dvd.html) for a simple step by step. Not sure what my problem is. If you are interested in moving recordings from one tivo to another, then you have to use mfs_ftp. :o
Hmm. I use MFS_FTP exclusively for extracting my .ty files, and have never had a problem editing them with TyTools.

[sanderton]

About three posts in the the main mfs_ftp thread is a converter program for making tmfs to tys.

[rfc]

Hmm. I use MFS_FTP exclusively for extracting my .ty files, and have never had a problem editing them with TyTools.

OK. Sorry to be so dense, but I think I am seeing the light slowly here:

If I want to transfer to another Tivo, mfs_ftp the tmf files down and up.
If I want to burn a dvd, download the TY files and work with them in TyTools.

Two separate endeavours. Two avenues to accomplish.

I think what started me down the road to using tmfs was a recap of using unscramble.o that talked about using mfs_ftp to download the tmf files, but upon careful reading of the readme for unscramble.o, it does mention: "using the extraction tool of your choice" and also mentions being able to use TyTools, so whatever it (unscramble.o) does to tmfs, it must to it to the ty files too.

I'll try starting over with the ty files, but also carry on with trying to make a ty from the tmf. Presumably, if I do both, the resulting tys should be identical, yes?

[JohnSorTivo]

so whatever it (unscramble.o) does to tmfs, it must to it to the ty files too
unscramble.o will remove scrambling from your actual source files (recordings) on your Tivo. .TMF and .TY files don't actually exist on your Tivo, but rather, are "virtual" representations of your recordings assembled by the MFS_FTP server. The difference between .tmf and .ty files is some additonal XML like meta data included as part of a .tmf file, the allows for better re-insertion to your Tivo. This XML like meta data is simply "added" to the file by MFS_FTP when downloading.

So, again, unscramble.o does not work at the .ty or .tmf level, but rather, at the actual source recording (FSID) level.

If I want to transfer to another Tivo, mfs_ftp the tmf files down and up
You can save yourself some time by using an FTP client that provides for FXP transfer capabilities. In this manner, with 2 client windows open to each Tivo, you can do a direct transfer from one Tivo to another without ever having to first download the file to your local machine.

[captain_video]

About three posts in the the main mfs_ftp thread is a converter program for making tmfs to tys.

He already knows about it but is confused about the correct commands to enter when using it (see his first post). I've never used it myself so I couldn't help him with the command line syntax.

[rfc]

He already knows about it but is confused about the correct commands to enter when using it (see his first post). I've never used it myself so I couldn't help him with the command line syntax.

Exactly right! Only this time, when I went to look for "it", not knowing that he was talking about the same program, I found the reference to Winzip in the third post and got sidetracked, lol. This is like an Easter Egg Hunt.

The program comes with very little instruction, and when run, I get:
Error sourcing /muxfol/tcldev/tmf2ty_cfg.tcl: couldn't open "infile.tmf" no such file or directory.

I have tried putting the tmf in the same directory as the program, but that did not work either. I can't imagine I need to rename each .tmf to "infile.tmf" lol. Must be missing something here.