Installing TyTool9r14

[blusky]

I have been reading for 9 days to try to install tytools on my HDRV2 . I have found some good step by step instructions using telnet to start tivoftpd server. I then unzipped TyTool9r14( thanks Jdiner) and cut and pasted the series_2_mips folder to my desktop. I am able to get this far:
tivo:/var/tmp$ tivoftpd &
[1] 434
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount
/dev/hda7 on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[1]+ Done tivoftpd
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount -o remount, rw /
mount: warning: cannot change mounted device with a remount
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount
/dev/hda7 on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
tivo:/var/tmp$ C:\Documents and Settings\My name\Desktop>ftp 192.168.0.
200( my tivo address?)
bash: C:Documents: command not found
tivo:/var/tmp$ C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Desktop>ftp 192.168.0.
200
bash: C:Documents: command not found
tivo:/var/tmp$ C:\Desktop>ftp 192.168.0.200
bash: C:Desktop: command not found
tivo:/var/tmp$
Just trying to put the nowshowing.tcl and the tserver_mfs7_mips into my var/hack directory.
I also tried by using FlashFxp ftp program to send the files to my var/hack directory but when I connect to my tivo using port 3105 or 23 I get only these directories :
asx
bat
tmf
txt
ty
ty+
xml
Phoenix.txt
shutdown.txt
I know this is really basic but I did get my HDVR2 fully hacked by reading, Just seem to have a mental block about transfering files to and from tivo. Since I messed up my rc.sysinit.author file by editing it with FlashFxp I am a bit gunshy. That took about two weeks to fix. thanks to waruwaru I was able to get it fixed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[mikey]

using port 3105 or 23 I get only these directories :

Try port 21 in your ftp client and make sure it is sent in binary.


tivo:/var/tmp$ mount -o remount, rw /


you are in /var. It is alread mounted read/write. :) I would install it on / or a subdirectory of / because if/when /var is rebuilt by the tivo you would not have to reinstall it.
mikey

[captain_video]

Port 3105 is only for mfs_ftp so you will only see the directories you specified when using that port. Port 23 is used for telnet connections. Try using an FTP program set for port 21. Make sure the filesystem is set to read/write before attempting to transfer the files. Don't forget to make the files executable after transferring them in BINARY mode (important).

tivo:/var/tmp$ mount -o remount, rw /

Leave out the space between "remount," and "rw" so it reads as follows:

mount -o remount,rw /

[blusky]

Thanks Mikey and Captain_video for your help. I tried port 21 and as you said all directories are there. AS you suggested I would like to put the series_2_mips in the var/hack folder incase the var is rebuilt.
I know that I have to make the file system read/write. The only way I know to do thjat is by using telnet to start tivoftpd server. Here are my commands and what I think the commands are doing so I can learn this. tivo:/var/tmp$ tivoftpd &( start tivoftpd)
[1] 434
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount ( see what the mounts are)
/dev/hda7 on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[1]+ Done tivoftpd
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount -o remount, rw / ( mount them as r/w)
mount: warning: cannot change mounted device with a remount
tivo:/var/tmp$ mount
/dev/hda7 on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
Is there a way to make the file system r/w using flashFxp or do you just have to use both FlashFxp to transfer the files in binary mode to the var/hack folder and tivoftpd to mount r/w then umount? after the transfer I have to chmod 755 NowShowing.tcl and chmod 755 tserver_mfs7_mips . Sometimes its the small details that get me. Once I get over the transfering of files and commands I think the learning process will speed up. I really appreciate the help.

[captain_video]

Just use a telnet client like TeraTerm and connect via port 23. Type in the mount command at the bash prompt and that's all there is to it.

[sanderton]

You have to do all the mounting and chmodding from the bash prompt via telenet, not through your FTP client.

/var/hack is just as vunerable to being rebuilt as /var - the entire partition gets wiped.

[blusky]

Thanks Captain_video and sanderton for your help. I think finally I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I understand how to mount and remount. The chmod I will do with teraterm after transfering the file with FlashFxp in binary form. Then remount as r/o/. What directory and sub directory do you think the file will be safe from being wiped out? Captain_video and Sanderton. I have read quite a lot of your posts and have learned something. As you can see there are still a few gaps in my knowledge, but working on it. Appreciate the help.

[blusky]

I followed the instructions given by captain_video ,sanderton and mikey. Thanks. I transfered the tserver_mfs7 and the NowShowing.tcl to my /usr/scripts directory. I changed the address under tivo client server tab to reflect this location. I was able to get the now showing list no problem. When I select a show and click get I get this:
Connecting to '192.168.0.200'
Connected...
Getting NowShowing data...
Total Size = 2452 bytes in 4.062000 seconds...

Name = 'c:\dtivo\Under the Tuscan Sun-'
fsIDs = '92697/92730/92742/92752/92819/92828/92829'
Tivo Address = '192.168.0.200'
Connected...
Could not open an output file!0

I am sure it is something that I missed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Getting closer.
Thanks for getting me this far.

[eastwind]

I followed the instructions given by captain_video ,sanderton and mikey. Thanks. I transfered the tserver_mfs7 and the NowShowing.tcl to my /usr/scripts directory. I changed the address under tivo client server tab to reflect this location. I was able to get the now showing list no problem. When I select a show and click get I get this:
Connecting to '192.168.0.200'
Connected...
Getting NowShowing data...
Total Size = 2452 bytes in 4.062000 seconds...

Name = 'c:\dtivo\Under the Tuscan Sun-'
fsIDs = '92697/92730/92742/92752/92819/92828/92829'
Tivo Address = '192.168.0.200'
Connected...
Could not open an output file!0

I am sure it is something that I missed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Getting closer.
Thanks for getting me this far.
That's the error you get when trying to store something locally when there is no place to put it. Do you even have a c:\dtivo directory? If so, is there any room on the disk for the file you want to extract? Last question....did you check the FAQ? There is a link to it under the help menu (and I think it can be downloaded from the TyTool thread).

ew

[blusky]

Thanks eastwind and all for the great help. I had mispelled the c:/ tivo folder when I created it. Tytools is awesome(Thanks jdiner).I am amazed at what it can do. I was able to make the key files and edit them and vob-Mux the file. Then burned it using Nero 6.Wow, I am glowing.
I have one question if I may. How can I get a better quality dvd? When I play the movie in my HDVR2 it looks great. When I play DVD the darker colors pixelate and bleed a little. Thanks to all for helping me understand.

[sanderton]

The video data is identical on the DVD and the TiVo; any difference in quality will be down to the playing equipment.

[blusky]

Thanks sanderton for yor help. So then the problem is my DVD player. When I burn with nero it sometimes has to compress the file so it will fit on the DVD disk. Can this also degrade the quality?

[RKone]

Are you sure it's compressing the video? That usually takes hours. If it is, it would definately lower quality. Are you trying to fit a lot of programming onto one disk? Tivo uses much lower quality video than a standard DVD, and even though DVD-Rs are lower capacity, only the longest movies and sporting events wouldn't fit on a DVDR without compression.

[blusky]

Thanks Rkone for your help. I have noticed with the longer files, about 2 hours or more the quality is worse. From what I understand on a DVD+r you can put about 1 Hour and 25 minutes of a file before Nero has to compress it to fit on the disk. Is there a higher capacity DVD disk?

[captain_video]

You should be able to get about three hours worth of video from shows recorded on a DirecTivo. Nero doesn't do any compression of the video files that I'm aware of. I don't believe it has that capability. I don't use DVD+R discs but they should be comparable to a DVD-R disc with regards to recording capacity. A single DVD-R disc should be able to hold about two hours worth of programming in standard DVD resolution.

[malfunct]

Thanks Rkone for your help. I have noticed with the longer files, about 2 hours or more the quality is worse. From what I understand on a DVD+r you can put about 1 Hour and 25 minutes of a file before Nero has to compress it to fit on the disk. Is there a higher capacity DVD disk?

Are you using Nero Burning Rom? or Nero Vision Express?

If you make a video project in Nero Burning Rom it will not re-encode the video but Nero Vision Express (possibly also Nero Express when it builds a video project) will always recompress the video.

Also do you build the IFO set with tytool? or did you let Nero do that? If you let nero do that I'd change and in the future do it with tytool instead.

[blusky]

Thanks Captain_video and malfunct for your help. malfunct, you were correct I was using Nero Vision Express . I think this is where my problem lies. Next attempt I will use Tytools for everything and regular nero to burn Dvd.

Previously, before installing Tytools I was using FlashFxp Ftp program to extract the shows to my computer. Then I would use tytools in Vob-Mux(new format)1 or Multiplex(new format)2 , then burn it to DVD using Nero Vision Express. Nero would always ask me to compress it if it was over 1:25 of recording. I have found an exellent how to for Tytools and Nero at http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/extraction_articles/tivo_dvd.html .Thanks to everyone for all the great help and pointing me in the right direction. Any tips or comments will be appreciated. Hopefully this post can help someone else with the same problem.

Just an update. I followed the instructions at the Murrays and was able to: download show from HDVR2
Make Key files
Edit key files
VoB-Mux File
Created the Dvd fileset.
I am a little stuck as to wich file is the final output to Burn. In my Video_TS folder I have the following files:
Show.ty
Show.ty registration entries
show.ty text.document
show.ty cut

show.ty.vob.chp
vts 01_1 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_2 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_3 Power DVD file 636,866 KB
vts_01_0.BuP
vts_01_0.IFO
Video_TS.BuP
Video_TS.IFO
Video_TS Power DVD file 32 K
I know I'm close .I tryed to burn the show.ty power DVD file 2,733,975 KB and I am getting this message from Nero: The File Show-.ty.Vob is larger than 2GB and therefore cannot be an iso file system. Please use the UDF file system to write such large files. This can be done by selecting another compiliation type. Will this compromise the quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[malfunct]

Thanks Captain_video and malfunct for your help. malfunct, you were correct I was using Nero Vision Express . I think this is where my problem lies. Next attempt I will use Tytools for everything and regular nero to burn Dvd.

Previously, before installing Tytools I was using FlashFxp Ftp program to extract the shows to my computer. Then I would use tytools in Vob-Mux(new format)1 or Multiplex(new format)2 , then burn it to DVD using Nero Vision Express. Nero would always ask me to compress it if it was over 1:25 of recording. I have found an exellent how to for Tytools and Nero at http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/extraction_articles/tivo_dvd.html .Thanks to everyone for all the great help and pointing me in the right direction. Any tips or comments will be appreciated. Hopefully this post can help someone else with the same problem.

Just an update. I followed the instructions at the Murrays and was able to: download show from HDVR2
Make Key files
Edit key files
VoB-Mux File
Created the Dvd fileset.
I am a little stuck as to wich file is the final output to Burn. In my Video_TS folder I have the following files:
Show.ty
Show.ty registration entries
show.ty text.document
show.ty cut

show.ty.vob.chp
vts 01_1 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_2 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_3 Power DVD file 636,866 KB
vts_01_0.BuP
vts_01_0.IFO
Video_TS.BuP
Video_TS.IFO
Video_TS Power DVD file 32 K
I know I'm close .I tryed to burn the show.ty power DVD file 2,733,975 KB and I am getting this message from Nero: The File Show-.ty.Vob is larger than 2GB and therefore cannot be an iso file system. Please use the UDF file system to write such large files. This can be done by selecting another compiliation type. Will this compromise the quality? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sounds like somehow the .ty files are getting copied over when they are not supposed to be. Maybe its an output folder issue. The only files that should be in the video_ts folder are:

vts 01_1 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_2 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_3 Power DVD file 636,866 KB
vts_01_0.BuP
vts_01_0.IFO
Video_TS.BuP
Video_TS.IFO
Video_TS Power DVD file 32 K

anything else is an intermediate file or something and should not be added to the nero project. One think I would do is go into you file options and turn off hiding of file extensions, then when you look at the DIR you would want all the .vob, .BUP and .IFO files included in nero's project to be burned, the rest are uncessary.

EDIT: using the udf file format is unecessary but if you used it, it would not change video quality at all. It may cause the DVD to be unplayable by stand alone players though so I'd avoid it. Again its not necessary if you include only the right files in the project.

EDIT: Mod's, is there any chance you can merge this thread with his thread in the extraction support forum so all the info is kept together? Also, in the future don't cross post your questions, it clutters the forum.

[captain_video]

Change the destination folder to something other than VIDEO_TS in TyTools. You've set it up to output all of the files that are created at each stage to go to the VIDEO_TS folder. You only want the output from the Create IFOs step to go there, which they will by default. Set up your local directory at the top of the TyTools window to specify where you want your ty files transferred to on your PC when extracting them from your Tivo. Go to the Options menu at the top and select the "Set Output Directory" option to the folder where you want all of the interim files to be placed. You can set both the local and output directories to be the same for convenience. Based on your example, only the following files should end up in the VIDEO_TS folder:

vts 01_1 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_2 Power DVD file 1,048,544 KB
vts 01_3 Power DVD file 636,866 KB
vts_01_0.BuP
vts_01_0.IFO
Video_TS.BuP
Video_TS.IFO

[blusky]

Thanks captain_video, malfunct mikey, sanderton, eastwind and RKone for all the help. I did as you said and everything fell into place. Now I see that tytools automaticaly creates the VIDEO_TS and the AUDIO_TS folders. I folowed the instructions for Nero and burned my first DVD show. The quality is just as good as the tivo itself. Wow! Thanks to all for helping me get this far...