Windows 2000 prof.

[Waterfall]

Ok I am new at this and I did the search and found allot of different ways. What I want to know I have my system with windows 2000 prof and want to know the best way to make the image on the Tivo disk.

I know the basic steps and have most of the software and hardware just want to know the BEST and the EASY way to set up my system.

Thanks.

[Waruwaru]

huh? please elaborate/explain your question. What do you think the best way is? If you tell us, then we can tell you it's good or not.

[Waterfall]

From getting a new drive. Do I need to put windows on the drive. Can I partition it (the one with windows on it), If so what is the best partition software for the job. What do I then put on the new partition, dos, windows ect.

Just want some guidance. I have a great learning curve and expect to hang around my new found fourums for a long time giving back to this hobby just need a start.

[Waruwaru]

If you are talking about adding a drive to your Tivo... The drive will be devoted entirely to Tivo. You can not put Windows or any other OS on the drive.

If you are talking about a new drive where the backup of your Tivo image will be, you can use anything that will format the drive and give you a FAT32 partition. Usually any new retailed hard drives will come with an utility disk that can be used to format drive.

[Waterfall]

I have A new Tivo

I have A western digital dirive 1200

I want to put the drive that comes out of my tivo on the self, if I ever want to go back

I have a computer ( W o W ) with windows 2000 and a cd burner.

I have cds with a tivo image with all the hacks already on it and dowloaded anything I might want to use.

I need help.

What do I do next. How should I set up my computer to burn the image into the new drive.

Any takers. I am willing to pay someone (PayPal) to get me where I want to be.

[vnox2004]

Hi waterfall!!

1. Download Sleeper's ISO(tivoscripts1_02.zip) at http://www.pvrfiles.com/

2. Burn it on a CD.

3. Find a spare drive(NON-WINNT/2000/XP) to place your TIVO BACKUP file.

4. Use the utility from WD to format WD drives http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp

4. Read Sleeper's ISO
http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28921
"The scripts are on a bootable mfstools disk (ISO) that also includes many of the more common hacks.

To use them you download the ISO, burn the disk and boot from it. You must install a FAT32 drive as Primary Master, a bootable CD drive as Primary Slave and the Tivo drive as Secondary Master.

The scripts are designed to teach what is happening. Each command that is executed has a brief explanation of what the command is doing and prints out the command. The user is prompted to press enter to execute each command and is then presented with a success or failure message.

The main menu will automatically appear upon boot. All the scripts perform 4 phases, any of which can be skipped. The phases are Backup, Restore, Surgery & Final Installation. However, you can not Restore unless you Backed up with the scripts first."

Which part are you stuck? :confused:

good luck!! :)

EDIT: DO NOT link to pvrfiles EXCEPT to http://www.pvrfiles.com/ It says so on the website. DO NOT do it again.

[Waterfall]

I am stuck at the new drive for the computer. I have a computer with windows 2000 on it...

What do I need to do.\

Purchase a new hard drive for the computer. and if so what size is the minn.

Do I put Windows 98 on it or what.

Can I partition the one in my computer now so I dont need to buy a new drive?

what is your advice.

[captain_video]

Get a copy of Hinsdale's How To for info on setting up your PC for making backups and restoring images to the drive used in a Tivo. You should also learn how to use the search function for finding answers to basic questions.

[Waterfall]

I see that this is going nowhere fast...

[Waruwaru]

I am stuck at the new drive for the computer. I have a computer with windows 2000 on it...

What do I need to do.\

Purchase a new hard drive for the computer. and if so what size is the minn.

Do I put Windows 98 on it or what.

Can I partition the one in my computer now so I dont need to buy a new drive?

what is your advice.

No, you need a new drive. To summarize, you need:
- a computer with a hard drive (you already have that, win2000)
- a CD with proper software for your specific model of Tivo (we don't know what you got, so can't be very specific)
- a new hard drive that is going to be installed into Tivo

You first need to figure out what Tivo you have and go to the correct forum, and Search/Read about the hacks. If you bought your hacks from someone else, then you need to contact the person where you bought your hacks from.

[vnox2004]

I am stuck at the new drive for the computer. I have a computer with windows 2000 on it...

What do I need to do.\

Purchase a new hard drive for the computer. and if so what size is the minn.

Do I put Windows 98 on it or what.

Can I partition the one in my computer now so I dont need to buy a new drive?

what is your advice.

First of all, relax. I know where you're coming from, I was just there two-three weeks ago. Having TIVO and reading about all the possibilities, it's too awesome.

Anyways, .......
What size minimum drive? 110-500MB according to Hinsdale guide....
"7) Backup up your TiVo drive(s) with Mfs Tools



Regardless of the upgrade configuration, you should first create and test a backup image before attempting any upgrade. We will use Tiger's Mfs Tools to generate a very small (usually 110-500MB), very fast (few minutes) backup file onto your windows C: drive. This small backup will contain your current software version, channel lineup, guide data, season passes, thumbs, preferences, etc for easy restore in case of future problems or upgrades (see readme for more detailed information on all of Mfs Tools’ uses). Mfs Tools opens your source TiVo drive(s) in read only so your original data/recordings should be unaffected."


"Do I put Windows 98 on it or what."
well what I did was I had a 3gig Western Digital HD available. I then used WD's utility disk to format it to make sure it's clean.
I then followed Hinsdale's guide.......
"OPTION #1: BACKING UP A SINGLE DRIVE TiVo

Note: Those with a two-drive configuration cannot backup only the A drive of an A+B pair and must use Option #2: Backing Up a Two-Drive TiVo below in order to create a functioning backup image.

Assuming your regular windows C: drive is connected as Primary Master with at least 1.5 gigabytes of free space to be safe (it may work with as little as 120MB free). Place your newly burned Boot Cd into your cd-rom drive (or Boot Floppy in your floppy drive) and power down your PC. Jumper your existing TiVo A drive to master (see drive diagram or manufacturer website) and connect to the Secondary Master IDE connector on your PC making sure the red/black edge stripe on the IDE cable is closest to the power connector and that the power connector is inserted fully. Then take your/(one of your) newly acquired large hard drive and configure the jumpers to Slave (see diagram on drive or drive documentation) and connect this drive to the Primary Slave IDE connector in your PC.

Power up your PC with the Boot Cd in your cd-rom (or Boot Floppy in your floppy drive). Boot Cd users should hit <enter> to initiate the default boot option. You will then see displayed on your screen a series of readouts before you are presented with a linux # prompt. Make sure to review the output and confirm that your hard drives are being recognized at their full size (you can hold down the shift + page-up to review the output if necessary - Boot Cd users page-up approximately 6 times to view drive reports).

If you have connected your drives as described above then:

hda Primary Master - should report the size of your Windows C: drive.

hdb Primary Slave -should report the full size of your new large upgrade drive.

hdc Secondary Master -should report the full size of your TiVo A drive (example 13.6GB for a 14hr)

hdd Secondary Slave - reports your cd-rom/cd-rw drive (if applicable)

If the drive sizes are not reported correctly, you may either have a locked drive (will report size as 9-10MB - see following instructions to unlock) or you may need to turn off your computers Bios IDE detection - search Avs TiVo Underground forum if you need assistance accessing your computer's CMOS. "


it's all in the guide, have you read it? Hinsdale http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/index9.html

Relax, read, no sweat, just a bit.. :D

[Waterfall]

I run two ubbs forums and I know how it is to be on the end of the flammers. You loose site of the easiest things and get fustrated with the same questions every day for months on end.

The only part I am confused with is the hard drive the 3 gig or so.... You stated you formated it with a WD utility to make shure it is clean. OK I know you have to do that.

Then you stated you followed the guide. Ok I have read and understand just about everything.

except you stated you went right to the guide and started (I assume you did nothing to the drive except format it with the WD utility)

but the guide states:

assuming you have a regular windows c: drive connected th at is at least 1.5 gigs. (now that is saying that it has windows on it) That is where the confusion is.

Does the drive it the computer that would be your normal windows drive need to have an operating systmem on it.

[captain_video]

I see that this is going nowhere fast...

Only because you're not listening. How can you expect anyone here to have patience with you if you don't have the patience to listen and learn? Now pay attention and read.

The C drive in your PC needs to be formatted with a FAT32 filesystem. Any version of Windows or DOS is fine as long as it doesn't use NTFS. You will be booting from a CD with a Linux kernel. Linux does not recognize NTFS partitions which is why the C drive needs to be FAT32. This is where the image will be written to. If you already have a backup image that you want to use for restoring to your Tivo drive then simply copy the image from the CD to the root directory of the C drive, then use MFS Tools to restore the image to the drive.

You do not need to format the drive that you're going to use in the Tivo. This is done automatically as part of the image restoration using MFS Tools 2.0. Hinsdale's How To tells you everything you need to know about making backup images and restoring them to a drive for use in a Tivo. It also tells you how to add a 2nd drive or upgrade to a larger one.

You can perform a low-level format on the new drive but it's not really necessary. The Tivo image will overwrite anything that's currently oin the drive. A new drive does not have to be formatted in any way.

[Waterfall]

Well for being brand new and asking the same question over and over I dont think I was falmmed that bad. It just gets a little fustrating when you are trying something new that everyone else is good at.

Well the upgrade to the larger drive went great after I found what kind of drive I needed inside my computer. I used a basic drive with win98 on it.

Ok now that the upgrade drive is in place, can anyone let me know what hacks should be or should not be put on... I pay for directv and tivo and wish to continue. I am interested in video extraction with tystudios, and be able to hook it up to the web.

If I do the hacks can it still be hooked up to recieve updates, and if it is not will directv updates for PPV still work.

And is there any order that I should apply the hacks.

THanks for all the help and your raised vocies got the point acrosss. Thanks again.

[Waruwaru]

<raise voice> Read/search more, you are asking questions that have been answered many times before. <lower voice> ;)

search keywords: PPV, extract, updates

[Waterfall]

Its all good... I just get a little impatiant and want some one to take me by the ear and say, LOOK!! its right here.. I have noticed several of you posts and you do add a good sence of fun to the sometimes boring posts.

Thanks for the fun....

[malfunct]

Well for being brand new and asking the same question over and over I dont think I was falmmed that bad. It just gets a little fustrating when you are trying something new that everyone else is good at.

Well the upgrade to the larger drive went great after I found what kind of drive I needed inside my computer. I used a basic drive with win98 on it.


The OS was unecessary, you can just format the first partition on the drive as FAT32 and be done with it, saves a bit of time if you never plan on using the win98 installation and just want to store your backups.

Ok now that the upgrade drive is in place, can anyone let me know what hacks should be or should not be put on... I pay for directv and tivo and wish to continue. I am interested in video extraction with tystudios, and be able to hook it up to the web.


Depends on what you want to do, there are TONS of hacks for the tivo and only a few are "necessary". The first thing you will need to do is get a shell activated on the tivo so you can telnet or connect by serial port and execute commands on the tivo. There are lots of guides to look at, for series 1 its relatively straight forward to get a bash shell running. On a series 2 you will need to "monte" your system to get the bash shell and be allowed to alter the software in the system.

If I do the hacks can it still be hooked up to recieve updates, and if it is not will directv updates for PPV still work.


With any hacks installed its not a good idea to accept automatic software updates from tivo. The reason is that at a minimum you will lose your hacks and have to start over, and in the monte case the upgrade will fail and your tivo will no longer boot. There are methods for both series 1 and series 2 machines (including monted machines) for manually updating the software. Also most guides to hacking have you put a line in your boot params to prevent the tivo from running any software updgrades (it will still download them, and still reboot to install, but then the param will be read and the install skipped). DirecTV will no longer work correctly through the remote as far as I have read. It may seem to work for a while but when you hit the max unreported ppv requests the ird will not be happy. Order PPV through the web or by phone.

And is there any order that I should apply the hacks.

THanks for all the help and your raised vocies got the point acrosss. Thanks again.

Apply the hack to get the bash shell first, from there the order is less important though installing network drivers and enabling the telnet and FTP daemons are probably the next things you would want to do because they make working with the tivo more convienent.

Read around the forum for other hacks you might want (tivoweb, mfs_ftp and tytool are some of the more popular ones).

[TheWickedPriest]

Linux does not recognize NTFS partitions which is why the C drive needs to be FAT32.
Of course, it could just as well be Linux's native ext2, or any other filesystem that Linux can write to safely. Nor does it have to be "the C drive".