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Aaron Barbee
02-19-2005, 11:30 AM
Hello all,

My question is below, but a little background on me first...

I am a computer professional and know my way backwards and forwards around PC's, Microsoft, and networking. I haven't made the jump to Linux yet, but with TiVo hacking, I know that needs to change... It's just that Linux is really for programmers, and programming doen't interest me (NO OFFENSE TO PROGRAMMERS, it's a great thing to be able to do!).

What I've done with my TiVo so far...
A couple weeks ago I got the CacheCard, 512mb RAM, and networked my TiVo (wired, not wireless). I ran the ISO image: nic_cd_tivoflash_20041218.iso

It gave me TELNET, and FTP. I then installed TiVoWeb and then upgraded to TiVoWebPlus.

I have read...
Leo Laporte's Guide To TiVo completely
William von Hagen's Hacking the TiVo (couple chapters on extracting)


MY QUESTION:
Everywhere I look it says to "install TyTool", but not HOW to do it... I got the files there, but I can't get it to run.
I extracted the TyTool9r18.zip (the latest from what I understand)
I have the tserver and nowshowing.tcl file ins the folder /var/hack/tserver.
I telnet to the TiVo and go to the folder /var/hack/tserver.
I type the command TSERVER, but it says "command not found"
I typed CHMOD 755 TSERVER, but it didn't help.
I thought this would work since that's how I did TiVoWebPlus, but I guess I did something wrong somewhere.

So, would someone please tell me if TyTool is the best for extracting video, editing out commercials, and putting it on DVD and/or storing the files on the PC?

I did look around this forum for about a week, but I just can't find anything that tells the commands to type, and which is best.

Thanks in advance,
Aaron
alldeadhomiez
02-19-2005, 11:49 AM
It's just that Linux is really for programmers

1. No, it's not.
2. You're going to need to learn it to get anything done on the TiVo, so find a tutorial.
3. Read the stickies.
icurnet
02-19-2005, 01:31 PM
Hello all,

(snip)

MY QUESTION:
Everywhere I look it says to "install TyTool", but not HOW to do it... I got the files there, but I can't get it to run.
I extracted the TyTool9r18.zip (the latest from what I understand)
I have the tserver and nowshowing.tcl file ins the folder /var/hack/tserver.
I telnet to the TiVo and go to the folder /var/hack/tserver.
I type the command TSERVER, but it says "command not found"
I typed CHMOD 755 TSERVER, but it didn't help.
I thought this would work since that's how I did TiVoWebPlus, but I guess I did something wrong somewhere.
(snip)
Thanks in advance,
Aaron

Aaron if you are in /var/hack directory (which is not in your PATH statement) type ./tserver (that is a dot /tserver). If you omit the ./ it will not run unless you update your path statement!
JJBliss
02-19-2005, 01:34 PM
I type the command TSERVER, but it says "command not found"
I typed CHMOD 755 TSERVER, but it didn't help.

linux is case sensitive.

I did look around this forum for about a week...
Not nearly enough time.
Aaron Barbee
02-19-2005, 02:37 PM
Thanks icurnet and jjbliss!! That's exactly what I was doing wrong! Everything's up and running now!

I was worried that this was one of those, "read everything or we'll ignore you" boards ... I'm glad to see there are some very helpful people here as well!

Best regards,
Aaron

btw, I don't care what anyone says... Linux is geared towards programmers.
It's a great O/S that I need to learn more about. Working with TiVo will help keep me on track in doing so. I am a Microsoft fan, true, but I think MS and Linux both have their place in the world.
eastwind
02-19-2005, 02:41 PM
btw, I don't care what anyone says... Linux is geared towards programmers.
It's a great O/S that I need to learn more about. Working with TiVo will help keep me on track in doing so.
You'll see by hacking the TiVo that linux is not geared towards programmers, but towards control freaks that want to be able to make their computers do what they want it to do. If you can program, you can make that happen a little easier. But even if you don't you'll soon get a sense of what I mean as you venture into this "Hacking the TiVo" journey.

ew
alldeadhomiez
02-19-2005, 02:50 PM
btw, I don't care what anyone says... Linux is geared towards programmers.
It's a great O/S that I need to learn more about.

Why should anybody care what YOU have to say on the matter, after you've repeatedly admitted your complete ignorance of Linux?

Are you from TCF, by any chance?
Aaron Barbee
02-19-2005, 03:28 PM
Very well said, Eastwind!!

I whole-heartedly agree!!
snowman
02-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Programmers use a programming language, such a C++ and others. Shell scripting isn't really considered a programming language. It's much like creating a batch file in DOS. Linux doesn't REQUIRE a GUI to operate, unlike the most recent windows counterparts. As such, it can perform the same tasks with much less hardware. The trade-off is you don't get a pretty GUI interface (though Linux does have those available if you so desire).

It's truly merely a difference between using a mouse and using a keyboard to perform most OS-level tasks. Now if Microsoft would just convert to a Linux command structure instead of staying with MS-DOS based command structures (like the / instead of \).
PlainBill
02-21-2005, 10:56 PM
Programmers use a programming language, such a C++ and others. Shell scripting isn't really considered a programming language. It's much like creating a batch file in DOS. Linux doesn't REQUIRE a GUI to operate, unlike the most recent windows counterparts. As such, it can perform the same tasks with much less hardware. The trade-off is you don't get a pretty GUI interface (though Linux does have those available if you so desire).

It's truly merely a difference between using a mouse and using a keyboard to perform most OS-level tasks. Now if Microsoft would just convert to a Linux command structure instead of staying with MS-DOS based command structures (like the / instead of \).

Sorry, I have to disagree with you. Linux vrs Windows isn't a matter of one leaning to the left, the other to the right. Linux tells you EVERYTHING that is going on - often in excruciating detail. Windows strives to isolate the user from everything going on behind the scenes, usually making it virtually impossible to determine what caused a failure.

PlainBill
captain_video
02-22-2005, 09:24 AM
I am a Microsoft fan
Aaaaaarrrgggghhhhh!!!! That's the sound of me biting my tongue since my Momma always told me "If you can't say anything nice...." :(

BTW, I've been to Redmond. They definitely don't need any more millionaires.