DNS Problems

[oddjob1266]

I have a Turbonet card and all is working well with that except because of the wireless situations I am in in my bedroom I have to use sygate home network to share my internet connection through my pc....I can telnet my tivo and ping any site by its ip address but somewhere my dns is getting lost. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...Thanks a lot.

[vu2vu]

Its been a while, but I don't believe S1's can resolve dns.

[woodie]

These S1 binaries use the included libresolv.so...
ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/TiVo/libresolv/

[PortlandPaw]

Please allow me to display my ignorance. I used to have my PC/TiVo network all configured with static IPs and all was well. Now I've acquired bandwidth delivered by wireless (big improvement over dial-up!) and the system requires the use of DHCP, at least for my PC. I can ping my Tivos OK from the PC, but without DNS, I can't ping the PC without knowing the IP.

Why is this important, you might ask. I'm using rsync to back up the Tivos to my PC. Used to work fine using IPs, but no more.

So, how do I use the binaries that Woodie links to? How do I get DNS working on the TiVo?

[eastwind]

Please allow me to display my ignorance. I used to have my PC/TiVo network all configured with static IPs and all was well. Now I've acquired bandwidth delivered by wireless (big improvement over dial-up!) and the system requires the use of DHCP, at least for my PC. I can ping my Tivos OK from the PC, but without DNS, I can't ping the PC without knowing the IP.

Why is this important, you might ask. I'm using rsync to back up the Tivos to my PC. Used to work fine using IPs, but no more.

So, how do I use the binaries that Woodie links to? How do I get DNS working on the TiVo?
I'm guessing that you can't put your router (with DNS) on the wireless connection instead of your PC? Maybe with cloning the PC's MAC address? That would get you a DNS server on your network to use for local activity.

ew

[PortlandPaw]

Hmmm. How would I address the PC? 192.168.1.1 or something like that?

[whuddageek]

Wired or wireless or dialup, all devices (hosts) on the network communicate via IP, which is translated down to the MAC Address before it hits the cable. DNS gives cute names to the IP addresses, so you don't need DNS to communicate. You need to know the IPs in use... names are optional.

The DHCP Server (whatever device is giving out IP Addresses) will have a list of IPs it's given, along with their MACs. It's a lookup table, where IP equates to MAC. So, easiest would be to view the DHCP settings in the device giving the addresses. Otherwise, just learn the IP of your PC.

That depends on your PC's OS, but I'll guess XP, just because it's so common. Easiest for me, for all OSs, is via a Command Prompt, so click Start, Run, and enter "cmd" without the quotes, then hit <ENTER> or click OK. That's brings up a DOS Prompt - a window with black background and something like C:\Documents and Settings\<yourname>. At the blinking cursor, key in "ipconfig", without the quotes, and hit <ENTER>. It will show you enough of what you need to know. The value to the right of the line starting "IP Address" is your IP Address. To see more info, like its MAC Address, key in "ipconfig /all", without the quotes, and hit <ENTER>. Windows 2000 works the same. If you have more than 1 NIC, then you may see more than 1 set of values. Obviously, choose the value for a NIC which mentions "wireless" or "wifi" or some similar word in its description, following "Ethernet adapter" in the output.

For 98/ME, just click Start, Run, and enter "winipcfg", without the quotes, then hit <ENTER> or click OK. It will bring up a little window showing the various NICs' settings. I don't have a 98 box immediately handy, but click in the dropdown near the top 1/3 of the window, and choose the appropriate NIC. You will see the IP Address below the NIC's description in the dropdown. For further info, click the "More" button, bottom right.

That should take care of it. Apprise if it doesn't. I'll be back to look.
Thom

[oddjob1266]

Wired or wireless or dialup, all devices (hosts) on the network communicate via IP, which is translated down to the MAC Address before it hits the cable. DNS gives cute names to the IP addresses, so you don't need DNS to communicate. You need to know the IPs in use... names are optional.

The DHCP Server (whatever device is giving out IP Addresses) will have a list of IPs it's given, along with their MACs. It's a lookup table, where IP equates to MAC. So, easiest would be to view the DHCP settings in the device giving the addresses. Otherwise, just learn the IP of your PC.

That depends on your PC's OS, but I'll guess XP, just because it's so common. Easiest for me, for all OSs, is via a Command Prompt, so click Start, Run, and enter "cmd" without the quotes, then hit <ENTER> or click OK. That's brings up a DOS Prompt - a window with black background and something like C:\Documents and Settings\<yourname>. At the blinking cursor, key in "ipconfig", without the quotes, and hit <ENTER>. It will show you enough of what you need to know. The value to the right of the line starting "IP Address" is your IP Address. To see more info, like its MAC Address, key in "ipconfig /all", without the quotes, and hit <ENTER>. Windows 2000 works the same. If you have more than 1 NIC, then you may see more than 1 set of values. Obviously, choose the value for a NIC which mentions "wireless" or "wifi" or some similar word in its description, following "Ethernet adapter" in the output.

For 98/ME, just click Start, Run, and enter "winipcfg", without the quotes, then hit <ENTER> or click OK. It will bring up a little window showing the various NICs' settings. I don't have a 98 box immediately handy, but click in the dropdown near the top 1/3 of the window, and choose the appropriate NIC. You will see the IP Address below the NIC's description in the dropdown. For further info, click the "More" button, bottom right.

That should take care of it. Apprise if it doesn't. I'll be back to look.
Thom

That's all great, and I already knew it all, but here is my problem, and I will try to be a little more clear as to my setup.

I have a cable modem across the street from my house, w/ Cat 5e running across the road into the basement of the house where I have a wireless router hooked up for the house. In my bedroom (2 floors up from the router) I have my PC w/ a wireless NIC in it for my internet connection, and all is well. In that same PC I have a 2nd NIC that is your stanard 10/100 card. It is this 2nd NIC that I have my Tivo hooked up to (through a switch, but that is of no importance here)

I need to somehow pass all requests for the internet from my Tivo though my PC through the wireless and back, and have been unable to do so recently. I have no good way of running cat 5 up to my room from the basement, so if I could do this wirelessly (w/out buying the wireless NIC for Tivo) then that is what I would like to do.

I had a program called Solidshare, that provided NAT support and it was working, but the evaluation ran out, and now their website does not seem to exsist even if I did want to buy a license. I have not been able to get ICS to work in XP, but it might if I set my Tivo to DHCP rather than the static address I have, but I wanted to avoid pulling the drive again if I could.

Also I am able to Ping internet IP addresses such as 216.109.112.135 (Yahoo) from my Tivo, but not yahoo.com, b/c the DNS just won't work no matter what I do. Is there anyway I can update my guides and such for my Tivo w/out the DNS working????

Does anybody know of anything that will do this for me, that doesn't take a rocket scientist to get configured correctly.

[eastwind]

I have a Turbonet card and all is working well with that except because of the wireless situations I am in in my bedroom I have to use sygate home network to share my internet connection through my pc....I can telnet my tivo and ping any site by its ip address but somewhere my dns is getting lost. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...Thanks a lot.
TiVo's don't do DNS lookup unless modified to do so. I think the file you need to fix is resolve.conf, but I'm not sure. Try a search on this site and you might find it (I know I've read about it here or at TCF).

Post the files that show how you're setting the TurboNet card and let's make sure you're getting the right gw and network stuff. What is the output of ifconfig on the TiVo?

What is the IP of the NICs on your PC (both wired and wireless)?
ew

[oddjob1266]

Post the files that show how you're setting the TurboNet card and let's make sure you're getting the right gw and network stuff. What is the output of ifconfig on the TiVo?

What is the IP of the NICs on your PC (both wired and wireless)?
ew

I do not know what files you're talking about or what gw means. Here is an screenshot of my ifconfig on my TIVO:

http://www.charterinternet.com/davonmfg/Jared/ifconifg.PNG

The IP of my TIVO is 192.168.0.3 Subnet 255.255.255.0. The IP of my PC on the wired NIC is 192.168.0.1 Subnet 255.255.255.0. The IP of my PC on the wireless card is 192.168.2.156 Subnet 255.255.255.0.