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Batman00788
07-13-2005, 01:29 PM
Does anyone know how to compress a TV show from TiVo of 2 hours/ approx 5GB so that it will fit onto 4.7GB DVD? I know there's got to be a way, but can't come across anything. Let me know if you can help.

captain_video
07-13-2005, 02:35 PM
Ther are several compression programs that might be able to do what you're asking. The only caveat is that they generally work with standard mpeg files and not always with non-standard mpegs created from ty files. One of the most popular programs is called DVDShrink.

Have you tried to edit out any of the extraneous material to get it below the 4.36GB limit? 5GB sounds awfully big for two hours of Tivo programming unless you're talking about HD (in which case it would be too small).

Check out the forums and web pages at doom9.org, videohelp.com or afterdawn.com for resources and guides for using DVD compression programs.

kfcrary
07-13-2005, 02:36 PM
Edit out the commercials?

Batman00788
07-13-2005, 03:04 PM
I have tried to edit out the commercials, but then I have the audio & video out of sync, but if you can help with that, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

eastwind
07-13-2005, 03:10 PM
I have tried to edit out the commercials, but then I have the audio & video out of sync, but if you can help with that, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Start with you system type and software version.
Then tell us how you're extracting and editting out commercials (include software versions).
DVDShrink works on a DVD fileset to make it just the right size.

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Batman00788
07-13-2005, 03:32 PM
I'm using DirectShow Dump DSD 0.1.618.0 to convert tivo files to mpeg(s) in order to burn to DVD. I'm using Sonic MyDVD Studio Deluxe v. 6 to edit out commercials and burn the DVD. I'm running all of this on Win XP with tivo series 2. Let me know if there's any other system info.

AlphaWolf
07-13-2005, 03:40 PM
I have tried to edit out the commercials, but then I have the audio & video out of sync, but if you can help with that, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Use typrocess to convert to mpeg, then videoredo to edit out the commercials. Works every time.

eastwind
07-13-2005, 04:35 PM
I'm using DirectShow Dump DSD 0.1.618.0 to convert tivo files to mpeg(s) in order to burn to DVD. I'm using Sonic MyDVD Studio Deluxe v. 6 to edit out commercials and burn the DVD. I'm running all of this on Win XP with tivo series 2. Let me know if there's any other system info.
You can use TyTool to extract and to cut the commercials. Most of the audio sync problems with files that were cut have been solved (except maybe HD-TiVo). Something else you can try.

ew

captain_video
07-13-2005, 05:09 PM
Are you extracting .tivo files with TivoToGo or are you extracting in ty, ty+, or tmf format? If using TTG then you should really consider hacking your Tivo to enable video extraction. Otherwise, none of the aforementioned methods will be of much use to you. The most popular extraction tools here are:

TyTools
TyStudio
mfs_ftp
TivoWebPlus with mfsstream (I think this method is still being used but I haven't done it myself in a long while)

The resultant file that resides on your PC will be a ty file (ty+ and tmf are variations of this format and are extracted using mfs_ftp). You will need to convert the ty file to an mpg file for editing with a commercially available editing program such as VideoReDo. TyTools allows you to extract, edit, and process to a set of DVD-compliant files with just one program.

Batman00788
07-16-2005, 09:07 PM
Is is essentially impossible to create DVDs from tivo shows successfully without hacking? Would there be no way to compress a two hour movie to under 5GB so it fits on a DVD without having audio or video issues? I just don't want to start hacking, since I don't have a lot of confidence in myself to do it. Also, does TyTools require hacking? Thanks for all your help.

captain_video
07-16-2005, 11:19 PM
You could simply copy the shows from your Tivo using the analog outputs and capture them on your PC via a digital camcorder and firewire connection or through a video capture card in your PC. Note that either of these methods will yield noticeably poorer results than direct extraction due to the additional digital-to-analog and analog-to-digital processing steps involved.

The answer to the hacking question is yes, you do need to hack your Tivo if you want to perform digital video extraction using TyTools. This is, after all, a Tivo hacking forum so what would you expect? It's what we do here. ;)

You'll need to hack it for a bash prompt, telnet, ftp (not absolutely required but definitely worthwhile and relatively simple to do), and TyTools. Depending on what type of Tivo you have you'll probably need to install a killhdintrd'ed kernel or some other method of bypassing the initrd check that will allow your hacks to stay put. Check the sticky threads in the newbies forum for more info.

tschwenke
07-17-2005, 05:34 PM
I'm using DirectShow Dump DSD 0.1.618.0 to convert tivo files to mpeg(s) in order to burn to DVD. I'm using Sonic MyDVD Studio Deluxe v. 6 to edit out commercials and burn the DVD. I'm running all of this on Win XP with tivo series 2. Let me know if there's any other system info.

Just an FYI, I tried to use Sonic MyDVD once.. It doesn't know how to deal with the non standard image and it 'blows' up the file to about 2.5X the size it starts as.

All the suggestions listed work. I use TyTool to extract and cut commercials they DVDLab to build and can then burn with just about anything..

SithLord
11-25-2005, 01:59 AM
Is is essentially impossible to create DVDs from tivo shows successfully without hacking? Would there be no way to compress a two hour movie to under 5GB so it fits on a DVD without having audio or video issues? I just don't want to start hacking, since I don't have a lot of confidence in myself to do it. Also, does TyTools require hacking? Thanks for all your help.

Use DVD Shrink, which I used when I TIVO'd the World Series. Game 3 was almost 6 hours long and nearly 9GB. DVD Shrink compressed it to fit onto a single-layer disk after I edited out the commercials. There was NO noticeable loss of video or audio quality, either.