>>> THE LINK -- THE SEQUEL! (And this one really works!!!) <<<

[surgeon]

I am *really* sorry for all the problems I've had getting this posted! I started to invite everyone here to drop by last night and pick up a copy from me in person, but my wife had already made other plans...

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Sorry for the problems but IBP seems to have screwed-up the file once again! I downloaded it myself and it is now corrupted as before...

Try this link...

ftp://tivo:tivo@quake.watchmybeaver.com/dsr600025xtreme

I will have a new, fast ftp site to share by tommorrow so check back...

-Surgeon-

[msg]

FINALLY!!!! IM DOWNLOADING IT - IS THIS A DREAM?

heh.. j/k thanks for all your hardwork and I'll let you know how it goes.

[monkeyboy]

Got it, and it's...... GOOD!


Thanks!

[surgeon]

NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE

All I ask is that anyone who gets a *verified* good copy and has fast access to a usable ftp sites, please post it there for me and post a link to the file on this board...

I don't know what the problem is but my cable upload speed is *fubar*! I can download @ 250-300kbps, but it took over 4 hours for me to post this on the IBP server!!! I'm in the process of trying to post it at quake.watchmybeaver.com, but it's reporting is going to take over 3 hours, so I'm sure someone will be able to beat me to it...

Again, let me apologize for the delays but hopefully it will spread to ftp sites so everyone can now get access to it...

The Sony SAT-60 version will follow soon... (By tomorrow hopefully...)

Enjoy...

-Surgeon-

[Willy]

Hey Surgeon, great work...downloading now. How do you find time on call to do this great work? What's your specialty anyways - besides operating on Dtivos?

[GoneSilent]

Thanks for useing the mail server. Its a great project that never took off that much. Wouldnt it be nice to have you tivo mail out data direct from mfs. I can't wait to see how the replay4000 will email such large files. Would be fun to use IBP for tivo to send mail. wget mfs and import it.

[Lure]

as always

[superzap]

Thanks surgeon.

As you mentioned, is there also a stand-alone version coming for those of us that don't have a CD burner?

[surgeon]

Originally posted by superzap
Thanks surgeon.

As you mentioned, is there also a stand-alone version coming for those of us that don't have a CD burner?

Yes, but with my current suck-ass upload speed, and the problems I've had trying to distribute this to everyone that requested it, I might suggest if you're in a hurry to go ahead and download the .ISO via the IBP link above. Then, goto WinImage v6.0 (http://www.winimage.com/winimage.htm) and download a 30-day trial of the WinImage utility. With it, you can "open" the .ISO just like it was a .zip file and extract my DSR6K25X.MFS file (in the /DTIVOIMG directory) from it for stand-alone usage...

-Surgeon-

[syst1]

Surgeon, great work on the 2.5xtreme file!!!


Is fixup already enabled in the image or hence the use of the bash prompt??



thanks

[medic21]

I love this stuff! This is too big a file for my 26k dialup. So I logged in to a server at work and I am down loading it there on a T1. I'll pull it off the lan on to my laptop when I get to work in the morning. If any one wants (or if no one minds) I post it on morpheus and make it available on a T1 nights and weekends. this might work better for people like me with slow connections. Thanks Surgeon!

[POTI]

I just installed this into my hughes unit and I get stuck at the powering up screen. Any ideas?

POTI

[surgeon]

Originally posted by GoneSilent
Thanks for useing the mail server. Its a great project that never took off that much. Wouldnt it be nice to have you tivo mail out data direct from mfs. I can't wait to see how the replay4000 will email such large files. Would be fun to use IBP for tivo to send mail. wget mfs and import it.

I believe it's gaining in popularity 'cause I'm seeing more and more posts about using it... I thought this approach might solve the bandwidth issues, as I'm sure it's on an extremely fast host. The only thing I hate is that they've cut the file's maximum retention times from 10 days down to 5... 10 was a *lot* better, esp. in this situation... The other wierd thing (to me anyway) is the friggin length of the url for the attachments. Whatsup with a retreve-attachment url of almost 1000 characters???

-Surgeon-

[surgeon]

Originally posted by syst1
Surgeon, great work on the 2.5xtreme file!!!


Is fixup already enabled in the image or hence the use of the bash prompt??


thanks

I can't address this issue, since the *only* legitimate use for a hack like 'fixup' would be by our Canadian brethren who can't sub even if they wanted to...

But if anyone North of the border should discover any coding sections which trigger this type of functionality, all I ask is that they *DO NOT EVEN MENTION IT* here in these forums... This CD is sure to get enough negitive attention from the TiVoDiVoS, so *PLEASE* don't try to be clever and post about any 'backdoors' that may/may-not exist in the DirecTivo25Xtreme versions... Be *cool* and keep that type of information to yourself and let others have a little fun hunting for their own Easter-eggs...

And that's all I have to say about that...

-Surgeon-

[zx7r]

I keep getting a error at 99.94%. Is anyone else getting any errors on the restore?
Maybe I will get the img and try it manually.


Thanks again Surgeon

zx7r

[surgeon]

Originally posted by POTI
I just installed this into my hughes unit and I get stuck at the powering up screen. Any ideas?

POTI

All that I can suggest is to double-check the jumpers on your drives... This has been tested on 8 different systems and on my 'hack-box' unit in at least 10 different configurations of single/dual, large/small, small/large, used/bare drives.

-Surgeon-

[yngdiego]

I have the same problem. I got the Tivo upgrade screen, and then it rebooted. Now it gets stuck on the Powering Up screen, then reboots.

I'm using a single drive (40GB) image, and the drive is jumpered as master. It's a WD drive.

I just put the original dual drive tray in the 'upgraded' machine, and it is booting normally. So the PROM didn't get fried. It only stayed on the first powering up screen for like 5 seconds. So maybe I do have the 'speedboot' PROM?

So the reboot problem seems like an issue with the HD image. I don't have a serial cable, so I can't telnet in. Any suggestions?

[surgeon]

Originally posted by yngdiego
I have the same problem. I got the Tivo upgrade screen, and then it rebooted. Now it gets stuck on the Powering Up screen, then reboots.

I'm using a single drive (40GB) image, and the drive is jumpered as master. It's a WD drive.

Is this the "normal" and "expected" reboots as explained in the documentation???

-Surgeon-

[yngdiego]

No. I did get the expected reboots. But I waited about 10 minutes after the 'Tivo is upgrading your software' and it constantly reboots every 2 minutes. I watched it do about 5-8 reboots on the 'powering up' screen.

[Autodestruct]

Hmm, I get an error when trying to use the image.

Here's what I see:

Starting restore
Uncompressed backup size: 1365 megabytes
Restore failed: Decompression error..99%) (1325.91% compression)
Cannot continue -- processing aborted.

Some background information:

- I downloaded from the HTML link listed in the first message in this post
- Tried to restore on a 'Quaxtor' 80GB drive (a Quantum drive now sold by Maxtor after the merger) on hdb. Got the error.
- Tried to restore on a Maxtor 40GB drive on hdb. Got the same error.
- Downloaded image again, reburned CD
- Still get the same errors
- The compression ratio is more normal (less than say 100%) during the restore, it gets to 1325% only at the end
- I am running on a dual PIII/700 system (Abit VP6 motherboard), not overclocked, 384 MB ram, 60GB IBM hda (HPFS Win2000 drive)

Anyone have any ideas, or other tests I can try?



Thanks again to surgeon, for his hard work on this! You're the man!

-AD

[surgeon]

Originally posted by yngdiego
No. I did get the expected reboots. But I waited about 10 minutes after the 'Tivo is upgrading your software' and it constantly reboots every 2 minutes. I watched it do about 5-8 reboots on the 'powering up' screen.

Damn! This sounds like the prom is not getting the updated code to allow it to get past the hacked kernel... Has anyone else used this yet 'cause I'm not finding any problems on this end??

-Surgeon-

[surgeon]

Originally posted by Autodestruct
Hmm, I get an error when trying to use the image.

Here's what I see:

Starting restore
Uncompressed backup size: 1365 megabytes
Restore failed: Decompression error..99%) (1325.91% compression)
Cannot continue -- processing aborted.

-AD

This *is* a strange one, as the error indicates that the compressed image is corrupted, yet it can't be because .zip is not reporting any errors when it's un-zipped... (That's the main reason it's zip'ed to start with, for the crc verification.) And other's are reporting that this part is working fine on their systems...

Only thing I can suggest is to try a different computer if possible 'cause it sure seems to be a hardware issue, possibly with with your IDE system of cdrom reader... Let me know wht you come up with...

-Surgeon-

[yngdiego]

Are there any logs on the drive I can look at? I don't have a serial cable, so I can't manually update the PROM and then try your image.

[zx7r]

I would say the img is corrupt. It is getting corrupt somewhere when making the ISO. the zip d/ls fine, the ISO burns fine. The image is corruot before it is placed into the ISO.

This is probably why others are reporting that their units are not booting up. They probably did not see the error during restore and just went ahead and placed their drive in the unit.

Can any of you who are having complaints that they are not booting up confirm that you had 100% restore?


Thanks,

zx7r


Maybe make dsr6k25x.mfs available for d/l and we can try that to check.

[Rael]

I am reporting the same error as Autodestruct, gets to 99% and "Restore failed: Decompression error..99%. I will burn another copy off another machine and give it a try.

I will report back.

[hwac]

Autodestruct i think it is your cd i had the same problems the first time i tried it , reburned cd with good quality cd and no problems with install

Now the real problem why does mine hang on booting up ( Welcome Powering up ) forever removed drives, reformatted, reinstalled, same problem ???? non quantum, both are maxtor if this helps ????? stuck

[yngdiego]

I can confirm I had 100% restore. I watched the process very carefully.

[zx7r]

I would say the img is corrupt. It is getting corrupt somewhere when making the ISO. the zip d/ls fine, the ISO burns fine. The image is corruot before it is placed into the ISO.

This is probably why others are reporting that their units are not booting up. They probably did not see the error during restore and just went ahead and placed their drive in the unit.

Can any of you who are having complaints that they are not booting up confirm that you had 100% restore?


Thanks,

zx7r


Maybe make dsr6k25x.mfs available for d/l and we can try that to check.

[hwac]

zx7r

yep 100 % here and 100% not booting

[zx7r]

well it is somewhat strange.
I only got to 99.94% restore, then it failed. I hooked to drive back up to my Tivo and it powers up and boots fine. *shrug*
software version 2.5-01-001

any ideas?

[Ellipse]

I did not have a problem with restoring the image, however I am having an issue with the DirecTivoMad utility script. I causes an error to occur


Copying mfsadd ...
/maddtb4/setupcd.sh: line 246: 222 Broken pipe cat /maddtb4/mfsadd.gz
223 | gzip -dc
224 Terminated | dd of=/mnt/tivo/tvbin/mfsadd obs=32k
ERROR: Copy of mfsadd failed.
ERROR: The exit code was 143.
ERROR: Cannot continue

Hope you will enjoy your Version 2.5Xtreme upgraded DirecTivo!


This happened twice for me. This is the same image that I posted to the "quake...." ftp server for those that are interested. It was moved ENTIRELY using a FreeBSD box to get there.

[Autodestruct]

Hmm, ok, so I performed a few more tests:

- Changed the CD-ROM drive on my original system, from a TDK VeloCD 12x Burner to an IOMagic 48X. Had the same 99% issue.

- Used a different system, different motherboard, etc, had the same 99% issue.

I'm using FujiFilm 80min CD's.

Can others that had success or no success report on their configurations? Maybe we can find a common element here.

What size drives are people using for the their restore targets? Where are you backing up to (hdb, hdc, etc). Where is your CD located from (hdc, etc).


-AD

[yngdiego]

targe HD is on HDC, CD-ROM is on HDd. Target drive is a 40GB WD, jumpered to master. The image restores just fine, but is in a reboot loop like other posters.

[Ellipse]

hda = DVD-ROM with CD inside
hdc = 40GB Original drive, jumpered to master

AMD K6-2 with 3Dnow
64MB of RAM
Creative DVD-ROM (older model, not sure which one at the moment)
Made both 74min TDK and 80min PNY Black Diamond (should not make a difference)

doing restore again, just to make sure (this time, no DirecTivoMad utility so that I can see if just the 30G version works or not...

UPDATE 17:11 EDT

The unit rebooted just fine, if I only ran the image restore, NOTHING ELSE. It gave me the bash prompt without a problem either (remember folks, it has been set back to 9600 baud).

It might have something to do with the was the PC wants to look at hdX right after you do a restore. It would not mount the partition hdX7 until I rebooted the PC.

on a side note, am I the only one that noticed that 2.5 takes more time to actually show you the picture of live tv then 2.0.0 does. (about .25 sec)

[tron]

I've had a little different experience with the image...

I burned the ISO at 4x, booted the system and get a mount error when logging on (can't mount /dev/). I presume that it is trying to mount the CD but seems that the command is incomplete and perhaps that section of the image is missing on this disk.

When viewing the disk from W2k, it appears to be compete and indicates that it is like 159.90 MB. I can see the 25xtreme executable and all of the sub directories, so the image appears to be complete.

I am now trying to reburn the image, this time at 1x just for grins and giggles, and will see if it comes clean this time.

tron

[msg]

SUCCESS!! -

I restored the image, booted up my tivo everything just like you said. I have the dual LNB enabled and everything. My only question is what am I supposed to do now?

I see its trying to call in and says im not subscribed.. so what do I do? fixup.tcl?

Plz advise, and again great job!

[Willy]

I was just successful. Everything worked fine. I downloaded, burned at 8X on a cheapie CD-R, did the modifications with my A drive on hdb. This was on an old P133. I did DTivoMad and now have 126 hours with a 100 + 40 HDs. It called in and registered my lifetime sub.

My only problem, Surgeon was with the booting of the CD. I think this disk is based on Nuboot6.iso which used a large RAMDISK. Unfortunately it did not run on my old machine with only 48MB RAM. BSnelson, the originator of Nuboot6, sent me a Nuboot7 with a smaller Ramdisk which worked fine on my machine. It requires to mount the CD drive as mnt/c to work. I can send it to you to see if you can use it to get around the large ramdisk problem. That way I can return the RAM I borrowed for this project.

Anyways, if I understand this correctly, all I have to do is to restore dsr6k25x.mfs using any version of mfstools and I should have all the functionality you have incorporated except the built in utilities on your CD, which would be reason enough for me to want to have your disk work on my setup.

Anyways, I'm off to go to Rat Shack today to make my serial cable and then I will be ready to venture further into these fantastic adventures like getting the locals.

If anyone wants to verify the images with checksums, MD5 etc. let me know. I guess my image is good.

Thanks, Surgeon, strong work.

[superzap]

Originally posted by msg
SUCCESS!! -

I restored the image, booted up my tivo everything just like you said. I have the dual LNB enabled and everything. My only question is what am I supposed to do now?

I see its trying to call in and says im not subscribed.. so what do I do? fixup.tcl?

Plz advise, and again great job!

Are you able to get bash? You don't need it for fixup, but I was just curious.
If you want to do the fixup thing, follow the instructions by Neutronflux in the stepbystep file.

[Rael]

I burnt the image at 8x and 16x and off 2 different machines. I get the same results, 99% and then dies with the "Cannot continue..." message.

I tried both hda (cd) /hdb (40 gig) and hdc (cd) /hdd (40 gig) both with the same results. I mounted it up anyway and tried it.

The amazing thing is that it is working.

I would guess we still have to run fixup02, or was that in this release?

[hwac]

ok it does work i tried it on a wd drive ( 30gb) loaded did a tivomad installed and boom it works now i have to get it to work on my quantum drives 24 hours does not cut it


thanks

[yngdiego]

anyone find a solution to the rebooting problem I and others are having?

[Ellipse]

Items tested on v1.0 of DSR6000 2.5 Xtreme image:

If you use the image by itself, so far it works. (30GB drive image)
If you use the DirecTivoMad beta 4 option, it fails at that point.

Items left to be tested:

Using 25extreme to restore and BlessTivo (NO DTMad)
Using the utilities by themselves (without REBOOTING after each step)
Using the utilities by themselves (with REBOOTING after each step)

anyone want to take some of these on?

[Ellipse]

yngdiego: Have you tried to restore to the 2.0.0 image to see if you can boot properly? You may have had a problem updating the prom. My system was already updated for the speed fix. If your prom is still the original prom, then you will have the reboot problem.

[yngdiego]

I used an old HD with 2.0 and it works fine on the machine which reboots with the xtreme 2.5 image. So I am guessing xtreme doesn't properly update the PROM. Any solution surgeon?

[zx7r]

How can you verify what ver. your prom is at? Mine is bash-2.02..just wanted to make sure this is what it should read for 2.5.

is there a quick easy way to verify? from bash or from booting up the Tivo?

[synthesis]

try "getprom -version" from bash- I think that will do what you want...

[holto01]

I had the decompression error also on a 16x CD/RW. I changed to CD/DVD drive and had no problems.

I am going to wait until I hear more about the reboot problem since this is the new DSR6000 I replaced since my last box died after the prom update to 2.5.

Thankfully I gently removed my warranty sticker so I was able to replace the origional "A" disk and return to CC as DOA.

[tron]

SUCCESS...

Upon further review, the mount failure was due to the fact that I have SCSI, not IDE, CD Rom drives on my box. I mounted the burner on the mount point /var/log/mount (or whatever it was that the CDROM alias was pointing to) and was able to run everything fine after that point.

The restore went well, reached 100%, and the TiVoMAD process appears to have been successful.

I'm getting ready to fire it up now to verify the process.

tron

[surgeon]

Guys,

All I can tell you is to double-check your hardware configurations on your P/C and try again... I just did a fresh download/burn/install onto a machine my brother-in-law brought over (which was still factory sealed) and had absolutely *NO* problems at all... It was an original 30GB+15GB which we replaced with 2 100GB western digitals. It now has v2.5Xtreme and 185 hours of recording time!

My testbed P/C is an ABIT BE6 MB/500MHz PIII/256MB/ASUS 50x CDROM/VooDoo 2000 Video system -- about as generic as you can get...

The whole DirecTivo 2.5Xtreme v1.0 upgrade procedure, from removing screws on unit to setting up dual tuner input and watching TV ---> less than 20 minutes!

-Surgeon-

[Ellipse]

I know you put a lot of effort into this, but I am telling you that it ALMOST works for ALMOST everybody. I have had NO success with the TivoMAD utility running from the script. Everything else works just fine though. Any ideas?

[hwac]

but there is still something funky with quantum drives i tried 4 times no go , so now i got a 30 gig wd that ran i'm backing it up and install back to my big drives i hope that works ?????

[yngdiego]

So what explains my, and others, reboot problems? everything else went A-OK. But the damn thing keeps rebooting on me.

[zx7r]

even though mine only got top 99.94%, i think most of it took. I plugged back in the Tivo. I got the announcements on there for the dual tuner thing. I am able to get to a bash prompt. I thought I would check for sure that the eeprom got flashed. I decided to reflash the eeprom again. It came back and told me updte not required. I can only assume then that I have the current 2.5 prom on there.
I have noticed that I am showing an Account status of 2. I think I should be something different than 2 right?

Well, if worse comes to worse I will restore from another image and plunk some stuff in manually.


zx7r

[tron]

I can confirm that the image works, the update is intact, and after it's initial setup and reindexing of the database it is good to go.

Now I have to bite the bullet and reposition my dish to fine tune the signal strength, but other than that it is ready to rock.

Thanks Surgeon :D for your persistance and innovation - this is a good timesaver.

tron

[mrblack51]

all i have to say is that this is awesome. well thought out, well put together, worked as advertised. now, if i can get a version for the sat-t60 and dsr6000 on the same cd, i will be in heaven.

[surgeon]

Originally posted by mrblack51
all i have to say is that this is awesome. well thought out, well put together, worked as advertised. now, if i can get a version for the sat-t60 and dsr6000 on the same cd, i will be in heaven.

I'm working on the Sony T60 right now (using Ice's image as a base to work from -- I had heard that it worked) and hope to have it up sometime tonight... Your dual-version disc is next on the list, probably sometime tommorrow...

Thanks for the kind words...

-Surgeon-

[Ellipse]

I posted this message earlier, with no response...


I did not have a problem with restoring the image, however I am having an issue with the DirecTivoMad utility script. I causes an error to occur


Copying mfsadd ...
/maddtb4/setupcd.sh: line 246: 222 Broken pipe cat /maddtb4/mfsadd.gz
223 | gzip -dc
224 Terminated | dd of=/mnt/tivo/tvbin/mfsadd obs=32k
ERROR: Copy of mfsadd failed.
ERROR: The exit code was 143.
ERROR: Cannot continue

Hope you will enjoy your Version 2.5Xtreme upgraded DirecTivo!


This happened twice for me. This is the same image that I posted to the "quake...." ftp server for those that are interested. It was moved ENTIRELY using a FreeBSD box to get there.


This CONTINUES to happen to me on my setup. When I have done some research, I have found this piece of information on Hinsdale's How-to page.


Restore Mfs Tools backup image to your new large upgrade drive using ONE of the following commands:

(This is assuming you have connected your destination upgrade drive as Secondary Master)


mfstool restore -zi /mnt/cd-rom/tivo.bak /dev/hdc (Boot Cd users command)


This will take even less time than the backup and will report drive progress and results. It has been reported that on rare occassion Mfs Tools will stall on the final "cleaning up restore" operation. If this occurs, and the cleanup operation is not completed within 10 minutes, you can attempt to break the script or power down your PC. It is of undetermined cause and has no effect on the function/completeness of the restored image.


If this is true, then why do we need the TivoMAD utility on the 25Xtreme restore? Since your (surgeon) 25Xtreme CD uses this command, you do not need to use the DirecTivoMad 4 as MFStool will automaticly restore the file to the large drive sizes. Any comments people?

[surgeon]

Originally posted by Ellipse
I know you put a lot of effort into this, but I am telling you that it ALMOST works for ALMOST everybody. I have had NO success with the TivoMAD utility running from the script. Everything else works just fine though. Any ideas?

Try running the DirecTivoMad(B4) directly and see what happens...
If it works, let me know... If it don't, then test it via a different computer if possible, otherwise let Trevor know because that's his baby...

-Surgeon-

[Ellipse]

I ran it by itself from your CD surgeon as well with the same results.

Unfortunately, I do not have another machine to pull apart to test this with. I will follow up with Trevor since this WILL affect me in the future when I upgrade the A Drive to something bigger.

In the meantime, is the assumption about the MFSTools correct?

If it is, then why do we need to run TivoMad after we restore an image?

[surgeon]

Originally posted by Ellipse
I ran it by itself from your CD surgeon as well with the same results.

Unfortunately, I do not have another machine to pull apart to test this with. I will follow up with Trevor since this WILL affect me in the future when I upgrade the A Drive to something bigger.

In the meantime, is the assumption about the MFSTools correct?

If it is, then why do we need to run TivoMad after we restore an image?

OK. Let's start with some basics.

How many gb is your 'A' drive?
Do you have a 'B' drive?
How many gb is your 'B' drive?
Are both drives connected to the P/C?

-Surgeon-

[yngdiego]

So why does my 40GB WD HD just constantly reboot after the 2.5 upgrade? I can reboot into 2.0 with no problems on the original HDs.

[Ellipse]

Drive A - Original 40GB drive from DSR6000R01
Drive B - Western Digital 60GB drive

Drives connected as follows:

hda - DVD-ROM
hdc - Drive A
hdd - Drive B

Both of them are connected


I have tried with both connected and just Drive A

(btw, without the TivoMad util is reports 77 hours. It shoud report more then that, based off of previous blessings on an identical system, not hacked at all)

[surgeon]

Originally posted by Ellipse
Drive A - Original 40GB drive from DSR6000R01
Drive B - Western Digital 60GB drive


Try using just the WD 60GB, jumpered as Master, as a single 'A' and see what happens...

[surgeon]

Originally posted by yngdiego
So why does my 40GB WD HD just constantly reboot after the 2.5 upgrade? I can reboot into 2.0 with no problems on the original HDs.

Just as a test re-run my install but answer NO to DirecTivoMad and the 'B' drive blessing options...

Then install in unit and report results...

-Surgeon-

[Ellipse]

That is what I currently have working in my system at the moment. THAT does work, but it only uses 30GB of the drive?

[Autodestruct]

Ok, so I was able to get the image to restore. As someone mentioned before, it looks like it was a CD problem.

This is somewhat odd, as I burned two copies and both failed, and I've never had CD/media/ISO problems before. (P.S., I used Nero 5, in case thats a common link)

Here's what I did:

- I saw when the restore was at 99%, the system was constantly accessing the CD (as though it couldn't get a good read).

- I used IsoBuster on the iso image, and copied the .mfs file to the hard drive

- I used MFStools to restore the image, and I got it to successfully restore to 100%.


BUT, it still doesn't seem to be working on either of my HDs. I get the Welcome, Powering Up, it reboots once, then goes to Welcome, Powering Up, and stays here indefinately....

-AD

[ruckus]

I'm getting the same reboot problem. I have a WD30.0 gig hd and it is stuck on the Welcome Powering up. It reboots every minute, minute 1/2.

The image said that it wrote correctly. I am going to rerun the image this time without TivoMad

Right now I do not have a B drive installed.
A is a WD 30 gig.

[Hardhead]

Was trying desparetly to get fixup etc, to work.Had all but that working.But after the last mods ,no boot.This ISO saved a lot of heartaches! I have single 40 Gig Q, DSR6k.I selected yes to tivomad (because HD was over 30 Gig).
This was first Linux Boot disc that recognized my SCSI Contr & Cd Roms.Although i used my Plex IDE 12/10/32 to boot from.
I think i might just unbox the OTHER ONE now!!

Surgeon, i owe you ,Great work!

Now to get back to the scripts :D :D :D :p

[Autodestruct]

I'm stuck at the 'Welcome. Powering up...' screen, and it does NOT continuously reboot. (reboots just one time). It doesn't load either.

This is without running TivoMad.

If I >do< run TivoMad right after restoring, I get the 'Welcome. Powering up', a reboot, 'Welcome. Powering up' 'A few moments more' or whatever message, and it hangs here. It never comes out of that screen, never reboots.

-AD

[hwac]

same here i got it to work on a 30 gig wd drive and once on a 60 gig quantum but tried to get the second drive running and she locked on me, is this me or i'm i just that unlucky :(




:confused:

[Autodestruct]

Mmm, that crow tastes good!

Anyhow, I was able to successfully restore and use the image. After having the image not load due to the CD issue, I.. err.. jumpstarted it by enabling DMA (which, while not producing a usable image, goes much more quickly). Anyhow, after copying the image via IsoBuster, and restoring by hitting enter (as surgeons txt clearly details.. twice), the process went smoothly.

So, in order to help others with the same issues

- If you can't restore the image completely, it's probably a CD issue. Try to burn another image, or use IsoBuster (search Google) to extract the .mfs file to your harddrive. Use mfstools (or edit 25xtreme) to use this as the input file.

- If it restores, but doesn't seem to work, are you SURE you just hit enter at the boot prompt?

Hope this helps.

-AD

[surgeon]

Originally posted by ruckus
I'm getting the same reboot problem. I have a WD30.0 gig hd and it is stuck on the Welcome Powering up. It reboots every minute, minute 1/2.

The image said that it wrote correctly. I am going to rerun the image this time without TivoMad

Right now I do not have a B drive installed.
A is a WD 30 gig.

Maybe I'm a little slow but I could swear that the on-screen prompts I wrote say something to the effect:

"If your drive is greater than 30GB you should run DirecTivoMad now..."

So tell me... Just how much bigger is your 30GB drive than the 30GB I refered to in that prompt???

In other words: ANSWER NO

-Surgeon-

[hwac]

oh i got it to restore but to run with 2 drives not yet

If i do dtivomad after i do restore it hangs ( welcome ....) but if i take the newly restored image try to run it first, it hangs ( welcome ....) after this i use dtivomad ver4 , put back in tivo and it boots and loads i've tried this several ways but this is the only way i can get it to boot and load.

Now if i can get the second drive working !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[surgeon]

Originally posted by Autodestruct
Mmm, that crow tastes good!

Anyhow, I was able to successfully restore and use the image. After having the image not load due to the CD issue, I.. err.. jumpstarted it by enabling DMA (which, while not producing a usable image, goes much more quickly). Anyhow, after copying the image via IsoBuster, and restoring by hitting enter (as surgeons txt clearly details.. twice), the process went smoothly.

So, in order to help others with the same issues

- If you can't restore the image completely, it's probably a CD issue. Try to burn another image, or use IsoBuster (search Google) to extract the .mfs file to your harddrive. Use mfstools (or edit 25xtreme) to use this as the input file.

- If it restores, but doesn't seem to work, are you SURE you just hit enter at the boot prompt?

Hope this helps.

-AD

You are absolutely correct! Using DMA/NOSWAP options will improve the restore portions as MfsTools will work fine either way, but the following DirecTivoMad/BlessTiVo utilities *WILL NOT WORK CORRECTLY* in these modes...

For the *THIRD* time: When the Linux CD's "boot:" prompt appears, hit <ENTER>!!!

-Surgeon-

[yngdiego]

Ok I got the 25xtreme to work with the 2 original quantum drives that came with the Philips 6000. Earlier I had tried to use a 40GN WD400 drive, and it would just reboot and reboot after the updating Tivo software screen appeared.

So what can I do to get the WD 40GB drive to work properly?

[surgeon]

********************************
SPECIAL IMPORTANT INFO MUST READ!!!
********************************

I'd like to alert everyone to the following:

REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!
REMEMBER TO PLUG IN THE FAN PIGTAIL!

DirecTivo's get *REAL HOT -- REAL QUICK*
if you leave this disconnected!!!

-Surgeon-

[ruckus]

I tried the image again, this time I wrote to the original Quantam 40 gig drive that came with the Tivo.

I was incorrect before when I said I used the TivoMad script. I did use it with the 40 gig Quantam.

Success!


Thanks Surgeon and friends for the scripts and image.

Outstanding.... got the two tuners working also. Now on to getting all the locals.

Thanks again

[hwac]

I would but i don't run it long enough to break a sweat

All kidding aside he's right if you run it for any length of time you should plug in the fan

[The Mayor]

Anyone?

Newbie here. Got it working on the first go around. I have a few questions:

1. Towards the end of the process it asked/estimated my total gig as 140. I clicked no and it went through to the end. My total should be 120. How can I verify?

2. What do I need to do, "If anything", as far as the dialing goes.
Tivo account status: "not set up, 2 days left." No dial tone etc.

I have also noticed a delay in the sound. Comes on a few (5-10) seconds after changing chanels.

BTW: I made a serial connection and am ready to go in if needed!

Thanks in advance!

Thank you Surgeon for making this available.

[surgeon]

Originally posted by ruckus
I tried the image again, this time I wrote to the original Quantam 40 gig drive that came with the Tivo.

I was incorrect before when I said I used the TivoMad script. I did use it with the 40 gig Quantam.

Success!


Thanks Surgeon and friends for the scripts and image.

Outstanding.... got the two tuners working also. Now on to getting all the locals.

Thanks again

Glad to hear you're up and running...

-Surgeon-

[bronco13]

Please don't flame me for these two questions, I am a newbie to TiVo, but certainly not DTV.

Surgeon,

1. On one of your preivous threads you mentioned the Sony T60. Will this ISO work with anything else besides the DSR6000 or is it product specific?

2. Can I use this in conjunction with emulation for a total entertainment solution. (If this is out of bounds please ignore) I am a legal subscriber, (Too chicken to cancel) but I enjoy all of the locals and PPVs as well...

3. How does this impact my ability to add a second hard disk?

Thank you so much in advance. Even though I'm new here I can certainly see you are held in the highest regard...

Thanks

[surgeon]

Originally posted by bronco13
Please don't flame me for these two questions, I am a newbie to TiVo, but certainly not DTV.

Surgeon,

1. On one of your preivous threads you mentioned the Sony T60. Will this ISO work with anything else besides the DSR6000 or is it product specific?

2. Can I use this in conjunction with emulation for a total entertainment solution. (If this is out of bounds please ignore) I am a legal subscriber, (Too chicken to cancel) but I enjoy all of the locals and PPVs as well...

3. How does this impact my ability to add a second hard disk?

Thank you so much in advance. Even though I'm new here I can certainly see you are held in the highest regard...

Thanks

We really don't do a lot of flaming around here, as most all of us are really laid back kinda guys...

1 - The current release is for a Philips DSR6000 and will *NOT* work with a Sony unit due to the differences in their remote-control codes. I *should* have a Sony SAT60 version done shortly... (Maybe by tommorrow...)

2 - The v2.5 software as released by TiVo "locked" the software so it could not be modified to add additional features like TivoNet and the like. The 25Xtreme releases 'automatically' removes these restraints when it's installed allowing various mods to be made. I'm sure if you do a little searching (via the search link at the top of this page) you'll certainly find the particular subject you're interested in...

3 - Basically 25Xtreme is just like the regular release you'd get from Tivo, with a few options like a 'Bash' prompt and the ability to modify the software any way you desire. In short, you can add a second drive at anytime you desire...

Welcome aboard!

-Surgeon-

[AAADiver]

OK I have a strange one not yet reported. I burned the image without issues to a CD using 2 different CDRs however when I boot from either CD and hit <ENTER> at the "boot:" prompt, I see the following:

Loading vmlnodma........
loading initrd.img .......


Then it beeps and reboots ..... :(

I'm running on a AMD K6/2 @ 450Mhz
Primary Master Drive C - (Disconnected)
Primary Slave - WD120G <- This is my target drive.
Tried with and w/o partition.
Which is correct?

Secondary Master - Toshiba 56X CD <- Contains 25Xtreme CD
Secondary Slave - No name CDR

Any clues as to what might be happening here?

Thanks for your help!
AAADiver

[Ellipse]

You could be having issues simallar to those I am having. I believe that I could be experiencing a problem due to the fact that my system will not recognize drives 40GB and higher natively. I have to tell it that there is NO drive in the system and it works fine for every option, except TivoMad. I am going to try this theroy out on another system at a friend's house later on this week. Other then that, I am stumped as to why my system will not do things correctly the first time.

[Ellipse]

You could be having issues simallar to those I am having. I believe that I could be experiencing a problem due to the fact that my system will not recognize drives 40GB and higher natively. I have to tell it that there is NO drive in the system and it works fine for every option, except TivoMad. I am going to try this theroy out on another system at a friend's house later on this week. Other then that, I am stumped as to why my system will not do things correctly the first time.

[hwac]

Ok I found the problem!!!!!!
Not the download, not the hard drives, Not the Install code

My Old piece Of $hit cd reader, the install told me everything was 100% but I’m afraid not, I pulled apart one of my servers and tried it there? (First shot, booted, loaded,) This reader works fine installing Linux and other things but it's old 8x and it must skip a couple of bits here and there, Well it's got a new home in the garbage can tonight when I get home.



Great job Surgeon

[superzap]

surgeon or ne1 who knows,
Since my pc's CD drive will not allow boot, is it possible to install the iso on a hard drive? I have a spare (500MB or 1GB) hard drive which I could put in primary/master.

[yngdiego]

Originally posted by surgeon


Just as a test re-run my install but answer NO to DirecTivoMad and the 'B' drive blessing options...

Then install in unit and report results...

-Surgeon-


Well if I answer NO to DTivoMad, then I don't even get the updating tivo service screens. It just constantly reboots. Answering YES gets me the update screens, but constantly reboots after that.

[The Mayor]

Originally posted by The Mayor
Anyone?

Newbie here. Got it working on the first go around. I have a few questions:

1. Towards the end of the process it asked/estimated my total gig as 140. I clicked no and it went through to the end. My total should be 120. How can I verify?

2. What do I need to do, "If anything", as far as the dialing goes.
Tivo account status: "not set up, 2 days left." No dial tone etc.

I have also noticed a delay in the sound. Comes on a few (5-10) seconds after changing chanels.

BTW: I made a serial connection and am ready to go in if needed!

Thanks in advance!

Thank you Surgeon for making this available.

Anyone? I could really use some help........:confused:

[emo777]

im new at this prgm stuff and just a little confused with this prgm talk on tivo. So is there anyone here that is located in vancouver that I can talk to or visit in person in helping me to get my Philip DTV Tivo working so that i can get the subs service to work.

thnaks

EMilio

[visar]

Originally posted by hwac


Well it's got a new home in the garbage can tonight when I get home.

Great job Surgeon [/B]

Hell.....if I were you....I saved it for my .45ACP down range!:D :D :D :D :D :D

[barrygordon]

I am a brand new newbie to Tivo Hacking. I am totally Linux illiterate, a poor speller and have dyslexic fingers so please excuse any funny typing. I have a good breadth of PC experience and am well known on many AV boards for my expertise in IR coding/decoding/protocols and dealing with IR remotes. I have had a Tivo since the day they have come out and am about to branch into more use of them (DirectTivo)

If you will bear with me so I can get started I will appreciate same and attempt to repay the kindnesss with contributions.

I downloaded the 25extreme zip file and attempted to burn it on a CD using the Adaptec product to prep the CD. It appears to burn correctly but when I place it a test PC (windows 2000 loaded) I can not make it boot from that CD. I am therfor at step -1. On a PC you need to have the CD made to be bootable by loading it with the proper boot files. Is there someting akin to that I am missing? Do I just load the windows files to make a bootable CD?.

No laughing please, Any help will really be appreciated.

[yngdiego]

Originally posted by barrygordon
I am a brand new newbie to Tivo Hacking. I am totally Linux illiterate, a poor speller and have dyslexic fingers so please excuse any funny typing. I have a good breadth of PC experience and am well known on many AV boards for my expertise in IR coding/decoding/protocols and dealing with IR remotes. I have had a Tivo since the day they have come out and am about to branch into more use of them (DirectTivo)

If you will bear with me so I can get started I will appreciate same and attempt to repay the kindnesss with contributions.

I downloaded the 25extreme zip file and attempted to burn it on a CD using the Adaptec product to prep the CD. It appears to burn correctly but when I place it a test PC (windows 2000 loaded) I can not make it boot from that CD. I am therfor at step -1. On a PC you need to have the CD made to be bootable by loading it with the proper boot files. Is there someting akin to that I am missing? Do I just load the windows files to make a bootable CD?.

No laughing please, Any help will really be appreciated.


The ISO image you burnt is already bootable. The problem is with your computer BIOS. Either your BIOS doesn't support CD booting, or it's not in the boot order. Check you BIOS for boot order, and make sure CDROM is before the C drive. You don't need to do anything to the CD-ROM once it's burn to make it physically bootable.

[AAADiver]

Originally posted by AAADiver
OK I have a strange one not yet reported. I burned the image without issues to a CD using 2 different CDRs however when I boot from either CD and hit <ENTER> at the "boot:" prompt, I see the following:

Loading vmlnodma........
loading initrd.img .......


Then it beeps and reboots ..... :(

I'm running on a AMD K6/2 @ 450Mhz
Primary Master Drive C - (Disconnected)
Primary Slave - WD120G <- This is my target drive.
Tried with and w/o partition.
Which is correct?

Secondary Master - Toshiba 56X CD <- Contains 25Xtreme CD
Secondary Slave - No name CDR

Any clues as to what might be happening here?

Thanks for your help!
AAADiver

Isn't there anyone out there willing to offer some advice????

Any idea what could be causing this problem?
Is a 120G drive too big or none compatable?
I'm an expert PC & DOS hack but have no experience with Linux.

If someone could throw me a bone, I promise to replay it 10 fold in helping others.....

Again, appreciate any guideance,
AAADiver.

[tron]

The 120 should work fine...

Try setting the 120 as Secondary Master, and the noname CDR as Secondary slave. Set your BIOS hd settings to NONE.

See if that helps, then report back your results.

tron

[barrygordon]

I have set the bios to boot from the cd. If I put a windows bootable cd in the drive it boots from it. If I boot from the HD and put the cd in the drive and just open it I can see the iso file.

Any other thoughts

[surgeon]

Originally posted by AAADiver
Isn't there anyone out there willing to offer some advice????

Any idea what could be causing this problem?
Is a 120G drive too big or none compatable?
I'm an expert PC & DOS hack but have no experience with Linux.

If someone could throw me a bone, I promise to replay it 10 fold in helping others.....

Again, appreciate any guideance,
AAADiver.

We are all willing to help, but your problem doesn't sound like an easy fix...

Bottom line is, I'd suggest trying the CD in another system to verify that it boots, even if that means taking it to CompUSA or Office Depot...

If the CD is fine, then there's a major hatred between Linux and your PC. Try stripping your PC down to just the bare neccessities,(mb,cpu,memory,simple vga card,cdrom reader and NOTHING else) and see if it now boots... If not, try replacing your vga card with a different one...

All these steps are just basic PC problem solving techniques...

-Surgeon-

[visar]

Originally posted by AAADiver
OK I have a strange one not yet reported. I burned the image without issues to a CD using 2 different CDRs however when I boot from either CD and hit <ENTER> at the "boot:" prompt, I see the following:

Loading vmlnodma........
loading initrd.img .......


Then it beeps and reboots ..... :(


AAADiver

Well well well......You may need to see if you can update your BIOS with a latest BIOS file for your PC......I got a similar problem before with Linux.......if you can not have the latest file......try to reload the BIOS by doing the Load BIOS default or Load BIOS Optimization........and then disable the necessity setting for your setup. They do the "beep and reboots" because seems like they have some kind of "memory" or "PCI address" setting error internally. They seem to happen sometime with AMD CPU....

Try it and let me know......if not.....you can always try it on a different computer....right?
:D

Don't be DISCOURAGE!!!:)

[barrygordon]

I am just not sure of what the steps are to make a bootable CD. I have the iso image. on a hard drive. I have winimage. Do I just copy the iso file from the HD to a blank formatted CD in its compressed form? Do I extract what is on the iso file using winimage and put it just the way it is in the iso file onto a blank CD? Do I unpack the directories and extract them to the CD?

I would think that the CD neets to be built with certain files in very specific places. How does one do that for Linux. I know how to do it for a PC floppy.

Any help appreciated.

[chipster]

AAADiver:

1) Does your BIOS see the entire 120G drive? Verify this in BIOS setup.

2) Remove the 120G and try booting the CD.

Wait...

You say the primary master is *disconnected*?? How? To act as master, it *must* be connected - unless you jumpered the 120G as master....

Keep the primary master connected - and check it's jumpers. Some drives have a different jumper config between standalone and master. Recheck jumpers on slave 120G - be sure it's set as slave.

Not familiar with surgeon's file - yet. If based on Kazymyr's CD, it expects hda to be a DOS drive - and doesn't byteswap it.

So you *must not* put the 120G as primary master (which means you must keep your other drive connected as master).

While MFSTools knows about byteswapping, and works either way, you will have to run other utilities to take advantage of the bigger drive - and those utilities must have byteswapping enabled - and byteswapping only occurs on hdb, hdc, and hdd (if they exist).

hda - primary master hard drive
hdb - primary slave hard drive
hdc - secondary master hard drive
hdd - secondary slave hard drive

FWIW:

These assignments are absolute - don't shift with different hard drive configs. ie: the alpha designators don't assign in order like DOS (glad we don't have to worry about extended partitions either):

If you have two hard drives - one primary master, one secondary master, they are labelled hda and hdc resp.

While the same two drives configured as primary master/slave would be hda/hdb.

[The Mayor]

Originally posted by The Mayor
Anyone?

Newbie here. Got it working on the first go around. I have a few questions:

1. Towards the end of the process it asked/estimated my total gig as 140. I clicked no and it went through to the end. My total should be 120. How can I verify?

2. What do I need to do, "If anything", as far as the dialing goes.
Tivo account status: "not set up, 2 days left." No dial tone etc.

I have also noticed a delay in the sound. Comes on a few (5-10) seconds after changing chanels.

BTW: I made a serial connection and am ready to go in if needed!

Thanks in advance!

Can anyone help me out? Just point me in the right direction. If I have touched on "something" that is not to be discussed. I appoligize. Email me if you wish.

Thanks

Thank you Surgeon for making this available.

[chipster]

Mayor:

This may be the only board where there's no forbidden topic..

I'll try to answer some of your q's.

1) Click your way through Menu - Setup - System Information. Scroll down to see recording capacity. Should probably read about 7/8 of your drive capacity in Gigs.

2) Search for "fixup02c.tcl" on this board. Read and read for ways to have it automatically execute from time to time.

As for delay. There is always a delay, since the Tivo needs to dump the old buffer and start a new buffer on the drive. Because DTivo first writes to the drive, then reads from it to display the show, there is always as much as 1s delay behind live broadcast (and channels appearing). It's by design.

Now if you're saying that you see the picture first, then the sound comes on after a further delay - you got me. On my unit(s), the picture and sound come on together - after the buffer delay.

[The Mayor]

Thanks Chipster,

I did not see the scroll. 106 hours. Cool

I have a delay with the sound it comes in 5-10 seconds after the picture. I am using the digital optical out to my A/v receiver.

I will look for fixup02c.tcl and figure it out. Hopefully...

System information says I only have one day left. Then what?

Thanks Again

[chipster]

Mayor

Optical out... not using mine yet. But I've heard similar complaints - especially with Yamaha receivers. Consider it normal.

After your free time runs out, the Tivo functions are disabled. Can still watch TV - but no record/play, etc.

Fixup cures this, but must be run at least once every 30 days. Download it, put it on your Tivo, run it. Then spend time reading threads related to fixup - like how to make it run automatically.

We're probably not too good with step-by-step how-to's on this board.... But the info is here. Digging into Tivo requires some basic understanding of Linux. If you're perfectly comfortable with command mode DOS (C:>) - then learning Linux basics to navigate the Tivo will come quickly.

[The Mayor]

Do I need to pull the hard drives to do this? . i.e. fixup02c.tcl

[tron]

Mayor - not if you can access bash remotely via serial or ppp link.

tron

[The Mayor]

I have the serial cable. What are you using to bash? I believe this is enabled with 2.5Xtreme.

[tron]

If you have the bash prompt working from a remote computer, search for the posting from Neutronflux that has his step-by-step guide. It is very easy to follow.

tron

[chipster]

Someone beat me to it but...

No, don't need drive on PC... but that's one way to get it on the drive.

Of couse, the proper way to maintain service is to subscribe and let Tivo call home...

Anyway - to run fixup -

You *will* need:

1) A serial cable between the DTivo and a PC. You can assemble one, see this thread:

http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4686&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

2) A comm program to talk to the Tivo.

3) A "bash" prompt from the Tivo.

4) Upload to the Tivo using "rz" on Tivo, and sending ZModem from your comm program.

5) chmod the script.

6) run it from the bash prompt.

As you may have surmised, playing this game will require some Linux knowledge - basic will do, and some compter and electronics know-how. In general, this board is not the greatest for beginners - but it has absolutely the best hacks.

Here's a good start:

http://www.tivofaq.com/hack/faq.html

Also, check the AVSForum. There's a *huge* Tivo board over there with links to several step-by-step how-tos. But you won't see the same hacks as you see here.

PM from here - or create a new thread, as this is getting way off topic for this thread...

[The Mayor]

Thanks Tron. I really appreciate your time. I know this sounds stupid. What is the bash prompt? How do I get it. What does it look like? I got the how to. I have the serial cable made. My laptop is what I plan on using. It is running 98/2000 dual boot. No Linux.

[chipster]

Check the tivofaq link I just posted. This has a great step-by-step on bash and what it is... (basically a Linux command prompt - Linux eq of C:\> )

[The Mayor]

Thanks all sorry to get off topic. Got all the required reading and files. Again I appreciate the help. If I get stuck I will start a new thread. Or find an appropriate one already posted

Be Well

[Hoochster]

Just wanted to give my 2 cents. For starters THANKS so much Surgeon and everyone else that has contributed to this board. It is great to have a place like this to come to for help. I will say I am one of the lucky ones that got everything to work first time right off the bat. Procedures in doing so. I bought a new system. I subscribed to Tivo. I went ahead and did all the updates manually first just to be safe. Then after all was said and done, I backed up my drive with no problems and then put the Xtreme image on. No problems, no errors. Except the one little error that is mentioned that it is supposed to be there! :) sorry had to throw that in there so you do know people read what you put in the scripts hehe! Anyways booted the drive back up in the Tivo unit and it did exactly what it was supposed to, rebooted once then loaded some stuff, then rebooted again, and then built the database and all was good. Then I went ahead and forced a dialup and all updated fine and showed me subbed again. So thanks for the great product and ease of use. I could have figured it out in time with all the WONDERFUL I might add help that is on this message board but saving me the time and steps sure helps especially when I have to tend to my 6 month old baby girl! :) So kept me where I could play with her and not have to research too terribly deep! Anyways have a serial cable on order and the TivoNet adapters for my next project. I plan on continuing to subscribe, I figure 10 bucks a month isn't too bad for what it offers, but I don't want to leave my phone line hooked up. Where I run the system I don't want to have to run a phone line down there. So my first goal is to get the fixup02 working which there is enough documention on it now that hopefully I can grasp that! And did want to say a hint for all those that have such a hard time burning ISO's. I have ALWAYS used a program called DiscJuggler for burning ISO's and cd copies. It has never failed me and does a wonderful job of it. No need to mess with the RAW options etc like in Nero. Don't get me wrong I own Nero too it rocks but I use it for my Bin/Cue cd's and DiscJuggler for everything else. You might wanna check into it, they have a trial version and see if it solves a lot of your burning problems.. I apologize I don't remember the website for them, but just do a simple search in Google or something and I bet you will find it. I just wanted to give my thanks for a great product and look forward to more dealings with all of you later!

Thanks Surgeon and everyone else.

[AAADiver]

Surgeon, Tron, & Chipster -

Thanks for the expert advice! Really do appreciate it. I'm not home yet but I think I see the porch light :-).

My reboot problem appears to be an AMD K6/2 bios issue. I updated the bios, stripped the machine, used default bios settings and believe it or not, I still had the same problem :mad: so I gave up on this machine and went and borrowed a friends.

Unfortunately it's a 166 Pentium w/only 32M of memory. It failed to boot off of the CD until I also updated it's bios. Finally booted but now I'm getting a Kernal Panic: Out of memory and no processes to kill.... They aint making this easy for me.

I beleive if I bump the memory up, I should be in business. I'll let you know but again, I really appreciate all the work you did up front Surgeon and the support from you guys as well.

Thanks again!
AAADiver :p

[midnightmaraude]

Would someone be willing to send me a boot cd with this 2.5 xtreme file. I must admit my transfer rate is 2.9 and everytime I hit 8 hours I get logged off the server. I tried also going to emptyhearts.com and that site seems to be under construction. I would be more than glad to pay for the materials. Please let me know. I see no way of doing this any other way, I have a T1 here at work but no CD BURNER and IT is iffy with me downloading stuff. I would love to try this file out.

THank you all


Of course if any of you have any alternate ideas in getting this file to my pc or in my hands please don't hesitate in letting me know.

[tron]

Hoochster:





BREATHE MAN, BREATHE!!!!




Better? :D

tron

[chipster]

AAADiver:

Perhaps you've simply got a bad CD burn...

Download the Kazymyr Boot CD ISO, burn it to a CD - at a slow setting - and see if this boots. If so, your problems are elsewhere.

Get it here (about 9Megs, pretty small):

http://www.9thtee.com/tbdv2_6i.iso

[Hoochster]

Tron -

Hehe, I was born with a keyboard attached to my body. So type is like talking hehe! Sorry! :) Can't stop at times!
LOL!

[midnightmaraude]

Can someone post the actual link where I can get this file at.
I don't have it here..and my buddies gonna go home on his cable and download the file and burn it for me...

I just need the link to where he can go get it

[Hoochster]

MidnightMaraude -

You might check the very first message of this thread, you will be amazed! :) Good luck!

[AAADiver]

Hi Chipster -

I'm 90% confident that it's simply a memory constraint. I was able to boot the CD on my laptop and get all the way to the second prompt before I aborted as I didn't know if it would cause any problems here.

On the desktop with limited memory, it boots, prompts me with the "boot:" prompt and then runs through a whole string of commands. I see that it finds all my drives including the 120G (yea!) but then it crashed during to the memory error above.

I'm going to slap another 64M into it so it has a total of 96M and I'm hoping that this will do the trick.

I'll let you know tonight. Thanks again!
AAADiver.

[TechnoMage]

Originally posted by midnightmaraude
Would someone be willing to send me a boot cd with this 2.5 xtreme file. I must admit my transfer rate is 2.9 and everytime I hit 8 hours I get logged off the server. I tried also going to emptyhearts.com and that site seems to be under construction. I would be more than glad to pay for the materials. Please let me know. I see no way of doing this any other way, I have a T1 here at work but no CD BURNER and IT is iffy with me downloading stuff. I would love to try this file out.

THank you all


Of course if any of you have any alternate ideas in getting this file to my pc or in my hands please don't hesitate in letting me know.


midnightmaraude, et al,

If you are one of those poor soles that MUST use a SLOW dial-up, and get cut off at the 8 hour mark, go to a site (such as the quake site mentioned on the board - it will let you Resume if you get cut off in the middle of a D/L) use a leecher (just to get the info) to get the file name and dir that it is in [ or ask someone :) ]- Note: if you HAVE to use Go!Zilla for the leech, please try and use a different - "NO SPY'Ware - program to actually download the file (Such as DAP) . With the info from the leach, use your downloader program and start up the download. At this time, go find something to do till about 8 hours go by. At that point (when you get disconnected) just restart the D/L and go do something else until either it is downloaded - or another 8 hours has gone by, keep doing this till you get it. Of coarse, you probably could have called a local DSL service, had them install your new DSL, and surfed for 2 hours before you would get the file D/L'd by this dial-up method [ lol :) ].
Long story short - You can do it, but do you WANT to.

__________________
Galen

[rkn2903]

Surgeon after downloading the image 2.5 Extrem for the DSR6000, and buning it to a cdr do i go buy a new hard drive, or do I use my Hard Drive out of my home computer, and put it into the DSR6000, and If so do i take it back out of my DSR6000 and put it back into my home computer, please bare with me because i'm very new at this Tivo operation, and will this be able to run with my H card and Emulation system. Thanks

[Neutronflux]

Just for kicks, I was reading that it is NOT recommended to use the 2.5xtreme software [the DSR6000 version] with a Sony T60 -- is there another version available for the T60 that Surgeon or someone else created?

[superzap]

Originally posted by Neutronflux
Just for kicks, I was reading that it is NOT recommended to use the 2.5xtreme software [the DSR6000 version] with a Sony T60 -- is there another version available for the T60 that Surgeon or someone else created?
Hi Neutronflux,
Surgeon is working on it, see this ===> http://dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4831

[tron]

rkn2903 - Just go out and buy a new drive or two - there are some really good deals on large drives, and you can now add one or both large drives to make a really huge TiVo, if you wish. Figure out how big a TiVo you want, then get the drives accordingly.

For me, 80 - 120 hours is more than enough. Others want 200+ hours. I'm not sure of the impact of the extra resources on the hardware design, so I don't think that I'd press it to the limits myself (although others are doing so with great success!).

Enjoy!

tron

[Neutronflux]

Hi Superzap -- thanks for the info, I was sure that someone was working on it but I wasn't sure which thread it was... appreciate it.

[AAADiver]

Hey Guys -

I am now completely up and running on a DSR6K running V2.5 (Extreme), SLE3.1.06, an the service hack.

Thanks for all of your assistance as I really couldn't have done it without you!

AAADiver.

[Pugs]

GentleMen

What Am I Doing Wrong , I Download ~25~.zip , It Tells Me It's Not A Valid File ,Tried PKWare & WinZip , Help

Thanks

[AAADiver]

Hi Pugs -

Sounds like you simply got a bad download.The file sound be 161,005 KB.

AAADiver.

[tivoq]

II've tried the IBP retrieve attachment several times without
any luck at getting a valid download.

I get a file thats 164868469 bytes, but it has no zip
directory. The file is wierd, its just a long run of ascii
decimal digits separated occassionaly with a binary hex a6.

Any ideas? Is there somewhere else I can download this
from?

[KingOfTheMoles]

Same problem here. Tried a few times today from various OS's.

[surgeon]

Originally posted by tivoq
II've tried the IBP retrieve attachment several times without
any luck at getting a valid download.

I get a file thats 164868469 bytes, but it has no zip
directory. The file is wierd, its just a long run of ascii
decimal digits separated occassionaly with a binary hex a6.

Any ideas? Is there somewhere else I can download this
from?

**************************************************
********************** N O T E *********************
**************************************************

Sorry for the problems but IBP seems to have screwed-up the file once again! I downloaded it myself to test and it is now just as corrupted as before...

Try this link...

ftp://tivo:tivo@quake.watchmybeaver.com/dsr600025xtreme

I will have a new, fast ftp site to share by tommorrow so check back...

-Surgeon-

[Pugs]

Thanks Surgeon

Very Nice Work !!

[Pugs]

Surgeon

I Tried The Link Above , Still Get Same Thing

"Not A Zip File" , No CE Signature

Any Thoughts

[Tortola]

I've had nothing but problems trying to get a good burn from DSR6000-2.5XTREME.ZIP I've used both Adaptec and Nero 5.0 and neither will boot from three different readers. Plex, Yam and Toshiba.

However, Hoochster left a message on this thread saying he has had great success with DiscJuggler by Padus. (www.padus.com) it has a free trial version for D/L. To make this short I down loaded this free software pkg. and gave a shot @ burning with it. Problem solved.... all cd readers boot this iso fine. Hope this helps someone.

Tortola

[tron]

You've got some serious problems... I burned it with Adaptec with only a minor problem the first time through, on a 8x burner.

Be sure that you are selecting the option for Mode I, not Mode II XA, and if you are having trouble then select 1x speed.

I did one at 1x, and another at 8x, and they both work just fine.

Good luck,
tron

[Ellipse]

There is a definate memory requirement for this ISO. My system would restore the backup, but DirecTivoMad beta4 would not work correctly with only 64MB of RAM. Once I bumped it up to 128MB (yeah, CompUSA and Free PNY Memory!) I found that it works correctly. According to what I have seen, you MUST have AT LEAST 96 MB of RAM for everything to work correctly. Since I only have 64MB sticks of RAM to test with, I cannot confirm this, but I can confirm that it DOES NOT work right with 64MB, but it DOES work with 128MB.

Thanks to Surgeon and all of the others that have written to help me over the last weeks!

Hope everyone got their GREAT deals at the various Post Turkey-Day sales!

(I even got 3 people to buy DSR6000s while I was in line. Do I get a commision?)

[tron]

Pugs - what is your environment (hardware, OS, browser, etc.) that you are trying to use? I just downloaded the link Surgeon added to the message above and it works fine.

Post your specifics here so that we can help sort it out...

tron

[Pugs]

Thanks For The Help

P3-800 ,512Meg ,50Gig ,Windows ME ,PKWare & WinZip ,

Explorer 6.0 ,CableModem (RoadRunner)

Been In The Business Since Before PC's & I Can't Even Download

A File , Pitiful Huh!!

Thanks Pugs

[KingOfTheMoles]

I tried both links with the same result. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Tried with the following:
Solaris 2.8 (sparc/Ultra 60, 512 MB RAM) w/netscape 4.something, through company firewall
Windows 98 w/IE 5.5 , through company firewall
Windows 95 w/IE 5.5 (PII 450, 128 MB RAM), at home via cable through linux firewall
Redhat 7.1 w/Netscape 4.77(PII 450, 128 MB RAM), at home via cable through linux firewall

Procedure: click on link save file, unzip file, open file in browser, click on d/l attachment button.

???

[tron]

I seem to remember someone (at least) had offered to host the file, and I thought that they had posted the URL. I'm sure that it is out there in an alternate location - anyone know where else it is available?

tron

[surgeon]

**************************************************
********************** N O T E *********************
**************************************************

Sorry for the problems but IBP seems to have screwed-up the file once again! I downloaded it myself to test and it is now just as corrupted as before...

Try this link...

ftp://tivo:tivo@quake.watchmybeaver.com/dsr600025xtreme

I will have a new, fast ftp site to share by tommorrow so check back...

-Surgeon-

[superzap]

Surgeon,
I don't see the full zip file on emptyhearts anymore. Is it still there?

Try DSR6K25X.MFS on emptyhearts.com. It is not the iso cd image just the MFS backup image. This worked for me. I wouldn't use Netscape Save Link As... because I believe it treats the files as text. Use IE or something else.
Then use the Hinsdale How-To (http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/) to restore and TiVoMAD if your HD is not 30GB or you have a B drive. Just a workaround until someone uploads another.

[surgeon]

Yeah SuperZap, I don't see it there anymore either... Something called 35Xtreme, but I don't have a clue who dicked with that file or what they may have done, so I advise against trying it...

I have updated the links above to the watchmybeaver site, which appears to have a good image, and I *should* have a new permanent site to share tomorrow for this and future 25Xtreme images...

-Surgeon-

[tron]

I'm taking the liberty of uploading it now. I've got DSL, so it shouldn't take ALL that long... Should be less than an hour or so, given the current throughput ;).

tron

[drapatin]

Ok I have read till my eyeballs ache and I have downloaded so much stuff, I have a certifiable mess on my hard drive...
I am confused with the overflow.....

Does Extreme2.5 give the ability to run scripts and other interesting things on the DTivo, when it wasn't previously possible? (only on 2.01) Or does it create something else?

I see messages pertaining to zeroing out the init....
Is the 2.5 file already "zero'ed"?

I assume if that is yes, that the new system created will allow fixups and other scripts?

I want to use my DTivo for a bunch of things one, to not have to pay an extra $5.00 to both DTV and Tivo for what I already pay them $105 per month for (i have 3 receivers and 2 tivos now) and I would also like to get the Florida Locals (all of them) and I have seen that it is now possible to 'edit' to do so.

Extreme just sets up the board.. I have to move the pieces.. right?

Oh and thanks for the newly posted link I am in progress of d/l ing the new 2.5

[tron]

Xtreme makes all possible :D... If you are at all knowledgeable in the subtleties of the TiVo hacks and the disciplines of linux and tcl, then poke around and explore the image once you've applied it... Surgeon has done a commendable job on his build.

Enjoy!
tron

[smeghead]

Hi all,

Thank you Surgeon for your hard work and for sharing with the community. It's people like you who keep this hobby going!

Could somebody please post a checksum for the file 25Xtreme.iso of a known good ISO? - I have a version downloaded (downloaded as an .iso file) and I'd like to make sure it's good before i burn it and try this out.

A CRC in Winzip would be great (File/Properties on the .iso once winzipped), or a checksum from pdsfv (should come up with the same value I think).

I'm sure this would be useful to others as well as myself if somebody would be kind enough to do this.

BTW, I'm waiting for my DSR6000 to be delivered by UPS so I can get busy. I have a LOT of Linux experience (back since the 1.x kernel under Slackware) including kernel hacking, and am greatly looking forward to contributing to this community :)

Thanks in advance for the checksum,

Smeghead

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast - WOOF!"

[surgeon]

A valid DSR6000 25Xtreme.iso image, zip'ed with WinZip, should have a SIZE of: 167,667,712 and a CRC value of: 0x2595d609

-Surgeon-

[Dishnose]

Make sure your temporary internet files cache is set to at least 200 megs.

[Laid_off_sick]

OK I need some help. I have read and read until my eyes popped out, put them back in and read some more. I downloaded an image of extreme2.5 a couple days ago and burned it several times.

I hooked up everything to my pc, the 15g and 30g tivo hd, and my dvd drive as the primary master and directed my pc to boot to the bootable cd. After 6 different cds and many hours of frustration, my pc will not boot to the cd. Tells me can not find operating system.

I can't find any system files on the image cd. I tried making a bootable cd using easy cd creator and then adding the 2.5 image. The cd would boot up but the 2.5 program would not run.

I must have a corrupt download or am I really lost here? I tried the new link today but can't even get to the download from there.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Can someone point me to some step by step instructions for using this 2.5 image? I am a mod at another site so I know how irritating it gets to answer the same questions over and over.

[ORiOnKiLeR]

I've tried all of the links in the thread and all are dead. I installed Morpheus and couldn't find it on there when I did a search. Anyone able to give me a hand with locating this file? Much appreciated!

- ORiOnKiLeR

[tron]

Laid_off_sick - You really need to review this thread and the method that you are using to burn the image, as well as your computer BIOS setup. The ISO image has the boot files on it, and it will boot into linux when it works. Make sure that you are burning as Mode I

ORiOnKiLeR You haven't tried very hard... The post that Surgeon made a couple of pages back works fine. Also, I uploaded the image to the ftp site that Surgeon mentioned, ftp.emptyhearts.com, so it is readily available.

Good luck,
tron

[ORiOnKiLeR]

I tried that first with IE and no luck... I tried it with an FTP client and too many users... I'll keep trying. Thx!

[drapatin]

This is one area I severly lack..

how do I check a crc value?

I have always been interested in that.. I seem to get a ton of bad d/l's and I assume checksum would prove a few theorys...

[surgeon]

Originally posted by drapatin
This is one area I severly lack..

how do I check a crc value?

I have always been interested in that.. I seem to get a ton of bad d/l's and I assume checksum would prove a few theorys...

The simplest way to obtain a crc32 check is simply to zip a file with WinZip...

-Surgeon-

[surgeon]

Laid_off_sick - Sounds to me like you are trying to use EasyCD Creator to create a data CD and are 'draging' the .ISO image into the data area... This WON'T work! If you do a directory of a CD you've made and it just shows the .ISO file on it then this is the case. You must select the options to "create a CD from an image file", then make sure those settings are set for Mode1 9660 format...

-Surgeon-

[Laid_off_sick]

Well my upgrade is now complete. The problem was the cd would not boot from my dvd drive. I took out my cd burner and used that to boot the cd and it popped up the first try. Ran through the setup and just finished installing cable #2 to the Tivo box. Everything is working fine so far. I had tried for hours to get the dvd drive to boot the cd but no such luck. I am by no means a computer guru but with a little patience, I finally got it going.

Now its on to the next step.........what ever that is!

[Pugs]

Hey Surgeon

Any Luck With An Alternate Download Site Yet ??

IBP = Still Invalid ZipFile

Emptyhearts = Can't LogIn

Watchmybeaver = Can't Locate Server

Help

[surgeon]

Watchmybeaver appears to be working fine...

Just click on the link I posted a few messages back...

Still working on permanent 25Xtreme 'home' site, but not much longer...

-Surgeon-

[The-Tinman]

Hi Everyone

First, let me introduce myself. The name is Newbie, bloody Newbie.


Well, after EXTENSIVE reading and a new pair of glasses, I have finally worked up the courage to open my DSR6K.

I downloaded and burned the CD, put in a WD 40gig drive in the ole puter, booted the cd, and followed the prompts. I was blown away that everything actually worked the first time!! My deepest thanks to Surgeon and all the other great people on this forum for the hard work that would let an ***** like myself actually do this without the need of a fire extinguisher. Totally awesome work!

One small question, though. The "extra" features Surgeon mentioned, do I need to have the drive in the computer at the bash prompt, or in the tivo itself at the bash prompt to invoke them. I did not quite understand that. Heck, I understood only a fraction of this anyway. Other than that, everything else works fine.

Anyway, I felt compelled after weeks of reading, to post and shower all the masters here with the praise so richly deserved.

Thank you all. :D

[tron]

The 'features' are unlocked - period. Regardless of whether you access locally or remotely, they are available. The only main difference is that it is much more convenient to access remotely, as you don't have to shut it down and pull the drives.

Enjoy.
tron

[dsswhat]

Ok I found ice2.5t-60.rar

but am kinda confuzed on what to do next I unrared it and it's a .bak file. what program do I use to restore that to my 40gig quatium drive?

Do I fdisk the tivo drive first? then restore? or just do a restore? \

I plan on doing the prom hack when I get home then wanta restore that 2.5 on my tivo then do the hack but not sure on what I'm doing here.


:confused:

[dave22478]

Any news on the T-60 image ? Great work surgeon!!!

[Laid_off_sick]

Where is the link to download the Extreme2.5 image. I tried the one posted in here but it says page not available. Is there a new link?

[kilroy]

Try http://www.framethrower.com

[Laid_off_sick]

Thank you, that one worked fine.

[danelgran]

OK so 25Xtreme sounds great and Surgeon is apparantly 'el hombre'! So, where the frick can I ftp this thing?

-Thanks

[danelgran]

Never mind.....found it!!! Sorry....brain drain for a sec there....must be lack of food!!! Thanks!

[yamaha]

I just purchased a dsr6000 with a bad drive and i need the image for it and found this thread, i've tried the links and none seem o work anymore is there another site,ftp,or somewhere where i can get an image for the dsr6000? please help. Thanks

[David Bought]

I just purchased a dsr6000 with a bad drive and i need the image for it and found this thread, i've tried the links and none seem o work anymore is there another site,ftp,or somewhere where i can get an image for the dsr6000? please help. Thanks

Why the hell did you bump a two year old image begging thread?

Post this shit in the NEWBIE forum or on AVS. We don't tolerate it here.

[newbie]

Why the hell did you bump a two year old image begging thread?

Post this shit in the NEWBIE forum or on AVS. We don't tolerate it here.

I think you have it backwards. Obviously the new member used the search function, found the relevent thread and tried to follow the instructions contained. Isn't that what we tell people to do? If the REAL moderators thought the thread belonged in the newbie forum THEY would have moved it. The member you responded to didn't put the thread in this forum. Your problem is with Surgeon (if not a Tivo god a near god) who started the thread or with the moderators who chose to keep it where it was started.

Unfortunately the FTP sites had to remove the images due to pressure from tivo. You might post a request on TCF, I think someone there might give you a link to a private FTP site.

[David Bought]

Your problem is with Surgeon (if not a Tivo god a near god) who started the thread or with the moderators who chose to keep it where it was started.

Wrong. The original thread was not started so that "yamaha" could beg for an image.

[newbie]

Wrong. The original thread was not started so that "yamaha" could beg for an image.

The original thread was started to supply a link for an image. The very title of the thread is "THE LINK..(And this one really works!!!) TRY READING BEFORE YOU POST your "canned" rude reply. Yamaha was looking for an updated link since the links in the thread don't work.

Yamaha obviously searched first, found the relevent thread and tried to follow the instructions given. Really not much else you can ask him to do without posting for more information.

Like I said if the REAL MODERATORS have a problem they can either delete or move the thread WHERE THEY THINK IT BELONGS.

[David Bought]

Yamaha obviously searched first, found the relevent thread and tried to follow the instructions given. Really not much else you can ask him to do without posting for more information.

Wrong, he was begging for an image. As there are no public image sites anymore which could have been linked to in a reply, his request could only belong in one place: the NEWBIE forum.

Use a little logic next time before you argue with somebody who is smarter than you.

[newbie]

Wrong, he was begging for an image. As there are no public image sites anymore which could have been linked to in a reply, his request could only belong in one place: the NEWBIE forum.

Use a little logic next time before you argue with somebody who is smarter than you.

NO He was asking for an updated link. Take the time to read the first post of the thread, Surgeon was giving the "offical" link for his program. The "offical" link is history and yamaha was asking for an updated link.

Puzzled why you are attacking a new poster who obviously took the time to follow your advice and tried searching first.

Logic would indicate asking the question the "offical" thread regarding the tool. If I had a question on Sleeper tools I would ask it wherever the moderators allowed the thread to be placed.

I see you didn't put your "offical image begging" thread in the newbie section not did you ask to have your thread moved.

By my definition you're rude, by your definition you're stupid.

[David Bought]

NO He was asking for an updated link. Take the time to read the first post of the thread, Surgeon was giving the "offical" link for his program. The "offical" link is history and yamaha was asking for an updated link.

NEW RULE: don't reply to a thread that is over 2 years old and expect to see an answer from the original contributors.

By my definition you're rude, by your definition you're stupid.

NO personal attacks will be tolerated here.

It is obvious that this discussion has run its course. You're wrong as usual, now suck it up.

THREAD CLOSED