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    Sorry this ended up in here. We actually did...

    Sorry this ended up in here. We actually did attempt to help this person. He was able to get the product working and was ultimately upset because we wouldn't give him one-on-one support to make...
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    Sticky: I haven't gotten them yet. If anyone has them,...

    I haven't gotten them yet. If anyone has them, we'd be happy to host them as we've done with previous versions.

    Lou
  3. Check out CCS Corporation...

    Check out CCS Corporation, they do good work and offer a six-month warranty on their repairs.

    Lou
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    Sticky: InstantCake will definitely take care of that for...

    InstantCake will definitely take care of that for you; it is more than just an image though - please see here for details and screen shots, as well.

    Lou
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    Sticky: Understood. No matter how hard I try, things...

    Understood. No matter how hard I try, things always end up getting misinterpreted (especially here) so I really shouldn't act so surprised!!! :-)


    Thx again.
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    Sticky: Just so you know, there was nothing that was...

    Just so you know, there was nothing that was intended to be 'slick' about it. The point was that when I wrote the scripts, which I did from scratch, almost five years ago, I was hoping that folks...
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    Sticky: thx

    I appreciate the support folks, thanks especially PlainBill for the clarifications.

    Its unfortunate that there are folks openly and unashamedly posting rapidshare links to things that we've...
  8. I know I'm resurrecting a pretty old post here,...

    I know I'm resurrecting a pretty old post here, but its done with good reason.

    Check out Bounty #2 here; for those with shell access and TiVoWebPlus, the door is open to do just what you are...
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    renaming post

    Testing vbulletin 3.6.8 functionality... please ignore... thx
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    Wow, I've seen a lot of creative ones over the...

    Wow, I've seen a lot of creative ones over the years:

    Instacake, Instabake, etc, but pancake, well... takes the cake. :-)

    FWIW, its InstantCake...

    In any case, 6.3 for the HR10-250 is...
  11. Its very confusing. Especially considering that...

    Its very confusing. Especially considering that the first standalone HD box was called the TiVo HD Series3 Digital Media Recorder.

    Bottom line is that architecturally, they are both "series3" -...
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    Sticky: or...

    ... you could always consider supporting a long-time sponsor of dealdatabase!

    InstantCake HR10-250 6.3c
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    Not only that, but the guy is actually...

    Not only that, but the guy is actually redistributing/using stuff that is expressly forbidden; sort of ticks off those of us who've actually paid for the rights and gotten permission to use certain...
  14. Hmmm - right you are. We'll, I'd have to assume...

    Hmmm - right you are. We'll, I'd have to assume that is correct and its likely that this is incorrect. I had to do some sleuthing to figure out that this adapter was based upon this chipset, and...
  15. Thanks for the insights. I will have to look...

    Thanks for the insights. I will have to look into that further.

    But the last thing you said stunned me. I thought this was a USB 2.0 module; at least that is what the box says.

    I definitely...
  16. Davicom 9601

    I have been attempting to compile a module for a USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter I stumbled across which uses a Davicom chipset (DM9601 - 0a46:9601).

    I've been attempting to compile the 2.4.20 drivers...
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    And *that* is specifically why your post was...

    And *that* is specifically why your post was deleted from the Official PTVnet Support Thread; that thread is a place to review and discuss your problems getting the product to work, not to admit...
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    That is a good point; I never considered what...

    That is a good point; I never considered what might happen if you attempted to initialize swap of an in-use system. I'll have to try that and see what happens; just for fun, of course.
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    You might try that; I don't *think* you need to...

    You might try that; I don't *think* you need to run tpip on the TiVo, but you can. Remember though, unless you do a good job of preserving your hacks by moving networking drivers/services over to...
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    The PTVlba48 CD has killHDinitrd, not killinitrd.

    The PTVlba48 CD has killHDinitrd, not killinitrd.
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    3.1 frankenstein kernel

    OK, its not that bad.

    Todd Miller recompiled the kernel as recommended earlier in this thread and so far, it appears to be working.

    Please let me know if it works for you; here's what I've...
  22. I don't know if that would be the best way to do...

    I don't know if that would be the best way to do it; although I could see why that would work just fine if the code were only installed on your Series1 DirecTiVo unit.

    As an alternative, consider...
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    still no sign of land

    Just an update. One of our contacts at TiVo has been made aware (as of Friday) that the 3.5 kernel sources are not yet on the web site. One of our other moles, who knows some Engineering folks...
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    Interesting. Thx. Can you please point me to...

    Interesting. Thx.

    Can you please point me to a good starting point for building any of these kernel images? I am running Mandrake 10 on one of my servers and its about time I got things set up...
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    I used the 3.1 kernel. I saw that the 3.5 source...

    I used the 3.1 kernel. I saw that the 3.5 source wasn't yet available on the tivo site and I did send some requests to them a little earlier. Will keep you posted. Thx.
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    kernel issues

    Well, I'm at an impasse, for now.

    I don't see any reason to believe that the 2.1.24 kernel Todd created for 3.1 should work under 3.5, just as the version created for 2.5.2 did not work under 3.1....
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    As I said in my previous post - I attempted to...

    As I said in my previous post - I attempted to use the 3.1 lba48 kernel - it the system will not boot properly with it. I will post log files as soon as I have them.
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    Thanks for setting me straight; the kernel is...

    Thanks for setting me straight; the kernel is indeed NOT LBA48:

    Before copykern / installation of Todd Miller's modified kernel:



    NORMAL: partition 1 ends at 63
    NORMAL: partition 2 ends at...
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    Hi Jamie - I hope I did not mis-speak. I...

    Hi Jamie -

    I hope I did not mis-speak.

    I actually did do that, but I think I need to reinstall on a bigger drive to know for sure; here is output from an 80GB (I assume, useless):


    ...
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    observations

    It looks like this distribution does have an LBA48 kernel it:

    Linux version 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5

    TiVoWebPlus (1.2.1) seems almost fully functional (some errors when loading the index.itcl module)
    ...
  31. Well, it does give some hope for those in the...

    Well, it does give some hope for those in the "wishful thinking" and the "not quite dead yet" camps. Another perspective is that it essentially allows DirecTV to keep their options open as well. ...
  32. Guess it sort of depends upon the interpretation...

    Guess it sort of depends upon the interpretation of this:

    Maintenance and support for the service will be provided by TiVo, which would have been under no obligation to service DirecTV customers...
  33. Because DirecTV chose not to renew their...

    Because DirecTV chose not to renew their licensing agreement with TiVo. Probably a combination of financial resource constraints, human resources constraints (those are financial, as well), and the...
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    Sticky: Cool. Didn't mean to sound harsh, just wanted to...

    Cool. Didn't mean to sound harsh, just wanted to ensure things got back on track... Cheers and thx for the $5. :-)
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    Sticky: No, you did not get suckered. Please refer to...

    No, you did not get suckered.

    Please refer to this thread:

    http://forum.ptvupgrade.com/showthread.php?t=1705

    and also keep in mind that this is the killhdinitrd support thread.
  36. support is on our forums

    Looks like you got your problem straightened out. For future reference, please use the PTVupgrade forum for support of our stuff, not DDB; if you sent us an email, the response you got should have...
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    315f tivoapp

    Check your PM...
  38. from one of our competitor's blogs

    "According to several conversations from several companies, 6.2 is indeed coming to HR10-250s. So this will mean, apparently, some extra speed, bug fixes, and, best of all, folders, on the unit."
    ...
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    Actually, pretty sure that TiVo no longer funds...

    Actually, pretty sure that TiVo no longer funds TCF. They used to, but a couple of years ago, I was told that TiVo no longer contributes. I could be wrong about this.

    I'm pretty sure the...
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    True. OK, here is what I woke up to in my inbox...

    True. OK, here is what I woke up to in my inbox this morning (see attached):

    So, in the spirit of going back on-topic (and I apologize for going off-topic too far)...

    Is it the existence of...
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    He claims to be doing it with a PROM mod. ...

    He claims to be doing it with a PROM mod.

    We've been going back and forth with him for the last several months, using vero complaints to delist his DSR7000 auctions, kits and CD's which were...
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    FWIW, I think the authors of the Zipper have done...

    FWIW, I think the authors of the Zipper have done everything possible to be respectful of DDB, and the developers whose code and techniques they use to make their tool possible. I know they are...
  43. Neither of these scenarios produce these results...

    Neither of these scenarios produce these results on my test system. Have you run the manufacturer's advanced diagnostics on the hard drive? It has been my experience that reboots have been...
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    Sticky: Please don't redistribute kernels modded with...

    Please don't redistribute kernels modded with killhdinitrd...

    More information here.


    Thx
  45. I would highly recommend you pull your drive and...

    I would highly recommend you pull your drive and run an 'advanced' or 'low-level' format on the drive (the latter is destructive, so ensure you have a good backup). I have seen this type of problem,...
  46. OK - Please let me know if there is anything I...

    OK - Please let me know if there is anything I can do or information/log files, I can provide...
  47. odd behavior with USB200M (version2)

    091605 drivers being loaded as follows on and HR10-250 (3.1.5f - 2.4.20)

    /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/usbcore.o log2_irq_thresh=4
    /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/ehci-hcd.o
    /sbin/insmod...
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    Hinsdale is our competitor. You purchased your...

    Hinsdale is our competitor. You purchased your kit from him. You asked for support from us. We explained that we do not provide that type of support. You continued to ask questions and asked to...
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    CV - Thoughts appreciated. Couple of things...

    CV -

    Thoughts appreciated. Couple of things to note - he didn't purchase that kit from us, nor was his issue related to installing it - he was doing an operation on his TiVo system drive and in...
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    You left out these emails. Does the term...

    You left out these emails. Does the term "stroke" mean anything to you? Good luck with your DIY project.

    ---------------------

    Man, you have to be one of the stupidest people around. To treat...
  51. If you end up pulling that drive out of your unit...

    If you end up pulling that drive out of your unit for any reason, I'd suggest your run full manufacturer's diagnostics on that drive.

    If it passes the "quick" test, run "advanced" - if it passes...
  52. I think this may belong in the "observations"...

    I think this may belong in the "observations" thread. Borderline, at best:

    I have observed this same "phenomenon" when manually installing 6.2 on the DVR39 and several other platforms. In every...
  53. Actually, he did - but not as specifically as you...

    Actually, he did - but not as specifically as you might have liked...

    crond tells a program to run periodically. that is a generic linux/unix thing. google on it and you'll get more info on...
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    No issues with folks who have complaints or...

    No issues with folks who have complaints or criticisms of our products. But for this guy, its personal. He's upset that he didn't get the royal treatment, while in his eyes, many others have. In...
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    Its just you.

    Its just you.
  56. Here is a link to the pinouts: ...

    Here is a link to the pinouts:

    http://www.dellanave.com/projects/tivo/tivocable.jpg

    You can get the bits at RadioShack.

    Or, just purchase a cable locally (one click away) here:
    ...
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    Right. And what is making matters more...

    Right.

    And what is making matters more complicated is that this "affiliate" isn't driving the sales of PTVupgrade products; he's using our logo to drive the sales of his own blend of products...
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    Seriously Mick, would appreciate it if you'd heed...

    Seriously Mick, would appreciate it if you'd heed my advice from my first response to your initial question... The answer is "yes" - but again, all the information you need is at the aforementioned...
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    Please don't use dealdatabase for support...

    Please don't use dealdatabase for support questions related to PTVupgrade products; we've got our own forum here:

    http://forum.ptvupgrade.com

    If you've got questions about InstantCake or just...
  60. FYI - here is the post that seems to have gotten...

    FYI - here is the post that seems to have gotten you and dormouse so riled up:

    http://forum.ptvupgrade.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4004

    As the links indicate, NetReady drives only come with...
  61. More nonsense.

    More nonsense.
  62. Don't be ridiculous. You sent me a Private...

    Don't be ridiculous. You sent me a Private Message tellling me the documentation needed to be improved. You got a private message back with explicit links to the product descriptions and release...
  63. Yup - NutKase is correct. Firstly, if you are...

    Yup - NutKase is correct.

    Firstly, if you are having the byte-swapping issue with a Series1 InstantCake image,
    here is the workaround; you don't need to purchase anything to make it work. Let's...
  64. FYI - the current release has the potential to...

    FYI - the current release has the potential to cause some confusion, and I apologize in advance for any it may cause. Boot-time default for 4.0 has been changed from no byte-swapping to...
  65. Just an example of one of the many posts here...

    Just an example of one of the many posts here that I might respond to in this context. Let me explain something, with the hopes that it will bring some clarity.

    We have no way of knowing the...
  66. PTVlba48 Boot CD version 4.0 Support Issues

    If folks are having generic/newbie troubles using the LBA48 Boot CD (version 4.0DD), here is the support thread. If the mods want that discussion to take place here at DDB, then so be it. ...
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    Hmm. Its looking like you've spent more time...

    Hmm. Its looking like you've spent more time posting on this thread, than our customer may have spent using our product to upgrade his unit. Clearly, your time isn't worth much; clearly, others'...
  68. PTVupgrade: An Open Letter to the Developers and Citizens of DDB

    Several senior members of the DDB community have expressed concerns in recent weeks about the commercial use of projects hosted at this site. I was able to chat with a few of them, and we have come...
  69. FYI - did create a new forum, called "DDB Refugee...

    FYI - did create a new forum, called "DDB Refugee Camp" on my site. I have mixed feelings about this. I VERY much want the appropriate stuff to dribble over onto my forums, I'm happy to provide...
  70. No, I linked to the thread that documents basic...

    No, I linked to the thread that documents basic use of the NSTS framework. (Please see the 2nd post of that thread). This, as far as I know, is the support thread for using the NSTS framework,...
  71. Use this thread...

    Use this thread as a reference.

    Where exactly is your "nsts" directory? From your post, you are indicating that its on your CDROM; if that is the case, are you ejecting the LBA48 CD and inserting...
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    Here's the deal; and BTW, I'm working on the web...

    Here's the deal; and BTW, I'm working on the web site make sure things are painfully clear...

    There's the issue of LBA48 support for the CD you are using and LBA48 support for the TiVo you are...
  73. lba48 beta CD

    Folks,

    I've just uploaded a beta version of a new lba48 CD to my site with an additional script for testing, and a few other changes.

    Based upon the recommendations of a few helpful folks,...
  74. I will take a look. Unless its glaringly obvious...

    I will take a look. Unless its glaringly obvious (which I'm sure it is to you, and I don't mean that facetiously); I will have to script the workarounds here. There have been several shortcomings...
  75. That's ideally what I'd like to do; I have no...

    That's ideally what I'd like to do; I have no idea how to tell MFStools only to go to the 137GB boundary.
  76. Well... I don't think it would be a good idea...

    Well...

    I don't think it would be a good idea to release an InstantCake product directly on an LBA48 CD without and lba48 kernel that goes along with it. Even with an LBA48 kernel, it would have...
  77. Fair enough. Wish I had known about it. Would...

    Fair enough.

    Wish I had known about it. Would like to fix it. Ideally, I'd like an mfstools that was more flexible. Will try to do some workarounds with the scripts and warnings that will do...
  78. OK, so let me try be the first to ratchet things...

    OK, so let me try be the first to ratchet things down here, in the spirit of doing the right thing (I'll address ADH's most recent post here, too).

    First of all, a big fat warning telling people...
  79. I am very aware of the fact that folks can make...

    I am very aware of the fact that folks can make things very difficult for me (they already are) in many ways.

    My point is that I have continually tried to NOT make enemies. In fact, I feel I've...
  80. Every single time I've attempted to be reasonable...

    Every single time I've attempted to be reasonable and approach a situation constructively, you guys ATTACK.

    I'm sick of it.

    And I've not attempted to stifle anyone. You guys want me gone. ...
  81. Well, it will definitely take longer than that in...

    Well, it will definitely take longer than that in wall clock time, as running the business and doing development work are difficult things to multiplex. Testing will also be required.
    ...
  82. Option 2 is what I would prefer. Obviously, its...

    Option 2 is what I would prefer. Obviously, its easier. It also prevents people from doing the wrong thing. My experience has been that people don't read disclaimers. Liability is not what I'm...
  83. k - looks like you edited your post. I agree...

    k - looks like you edited your post. I agree with your last comment here. The challenge is anticipating what the user might do with it. The product works within the context that we've sold it in. ...
  84. OK, so I don't want to fight about it either, so...

    OK, so I don't want to fight about it either, so please don't pick one.

    Back to the topic:

    Until TiVo releases a kernel that addresses the problem, I don't think it would be smart to stick my...
  85. FWIW - to date, none of the downloadable software...

    FWIW - to date, none of the downloadable software tools we've sold have generated any profit. At the current rate of sales, I'd say another six-months; and that assumes not touching any of the...
  86. trying to understand the root of the problem

    Hello folks,

    I've just been made aware of this thread and spend a good deal of time reading through it. Having a hard time understanding what the root of the problem is -- is it technical or is...
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    Burbinator - I've witnessed the same behavior....

    Burbinator -

    I've witnessed the same behavior. Haven't been able to fix it, but in looking at tpm.sh its clear that the UNINSTALL_PROGRAM string is treated a little differently because he wants...
  88. TyTool - Copyright 2002-2004 © by Joshua...

    TyTool - Copyright 2002-2004 © by Joshua Dinerstein, All Rights Reserved

    Compiled with Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 SP5+

    The TyTool Website can be found at: www.tytool.com

    TyTool is a freely...
  89. Your antagonism is wearing on me. If you want to...

    Your antagonism is wearing on me. If you want to have a productive conversation towards a common good, I'm all ears. Otherwise, I'm through responding to your posts. I've tried to be reasonable...
  90. ADH, i'll address each of points: I never used...

    ADH, i'll address each of points:

    I never used the word 'legal'.

    Its your opinion and perhaps some others' too that I have been disprespectful towards the developer community. Not sure where...
  91. JJ, please don't misunderstand me either; the...

    JJ, please don't misunderstand me either; the quote wasn't for you, I thought I qualified that with what I wrote prior to quoting it. Also, I know you weren't suggesting I was doing anything...
  92. JJ - your code will be removed; no worries there....

    JJ - your code will be removed; no worries there.

    As for my perspective - I need to quote this because I know there are all sorts of naive folks out there who never have, and won't read the GPL,...
  93. JJ - I have, and will continue to show respect...

    JJ - I have, and will continue to show respect for the developers that participate in this community. As for the bufferhack situation, I'm not going to delay the release of the PTVnet product...
  94. Quick follow-up... ADH, I'm sure if we ever sat...

    Quick follow-up... ADH, I'm sure if we ever sat down for beers, we'd probably agree on more things than we'd disagree. I'm sure you'd enlighten me on a few things, and I'd like to think that you...
  95. I am grateful for the contributions of developers...

    I am grateful for the contributions of developers and happy they've chosen the GPL for many of them. I would like to think that they are happy to have their tools embraced and used for a greater...
  96. Not being evasive here, at least not...

    Not being evasive here, at least not intentionally.

    I don't understand why you believe that consent, beyond the terms of the GPL, is something that should be asked for and honored, explicitly. I...
  97. I think there is room in the marketplace for all...

    I think there is room in the marketplace for all of these things; none of them are inherently evil and none of them are inherently better than one another. Innovation comes in many forms -...
  98. Thread: PTVNet

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    Ouch, that hurt. I don't agree with this fully,...

    Ouch, that hurt. I don't agree with this fully, but I do understand where you are coming from; I'm trying to do the right thing here. But putting myself at the complete mercy of DDB members is...
  99. Thread: PTVNet

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    ok, fwiw, i've sent an email to jdiner... ......

    ok, fwiw, i've sent an email to jdiner...

    ... for the record... when we started redistributing this stuff, there were no release notes or any indications that we shouldn't be redistributing the...
  100. Thread: PTVNet

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    I don't disagree with that, but I don't think it...

    I don't disagree with that, but I don't think it is impolite (or wrong) to ask. The GPL doesn't even suggest such a thing, at least I don't think it does.

    With that said, I will certainly plan on...
  101. Thread: PTVNet

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    will do so... fyi, i did send an email about a...

    will do so... fyi, i did send an email about a year ago on this...
  102. Thread: PTVNet

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    I guess it depends on how you look at it. I do...

    I guess it depends on how you look at it. I do see what you are seeing - developers being driven underground. I hate to see that. For-profit work isn't a bad thing, in fact that may be considered...
  103. Thread: PTVNet

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    Hang on... We have an agreement with this...

    Hang on... We have an agreement with this seller; have reviewed his work, and he is authorized to be doing this. And he's a customer-oriented fellow who to date, has kept up his end of the bargain,...
  104. Thread: PTVNet

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    JJ - Thanks, I appreciate the response. Just...

    JJ -

    Thanks, I appreciate the response. Just a quick one on my part, to acknowledge the bufferhack issue... I'm guessing that it was all a major oversight. I didn't know it was in there when I...
  105. Thread: PTVNet

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    OK, so let's clear a few things up. I don't mean...

    OK, so let's clear a few things up. I don't mean this as an attack against you personally, because I'm certain you are not the only one with this sentiment, but I need to point some things out, in...
  106. Thread: PTVNet

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    I'll have to disagree with that: it will have...

    I'll have to disagree with that:

    it will have limited appeal, but won't flop; just as our networking kits for Series1 units have limited appeal. we've been doing that for two-years now, and it...
  107. Thread: PTVNet

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    Ok, I've read it. I think you are overreacting. ...

    Ok, I've read it. I think you are overreacting. If you had any idea how much time I spend integrating these tools, so that they work in a scenario where my customers don't have to worry about it,...
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    Sticky: That is great and would be happy to include it,...

    That is great and would be happy to include it, and ensure you are fully credited. Just drop me a line when you are ready and roll it into the distribution.

    As for mirroring on another site;...
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    Sticky: killhdinitrd is not GPL

    Yes, we need to tighten up the clauses related to that. killhdinitrd is not subject to the terms of the GPL and is not brought under the GPL by being bundled with the rest of the CD which is...
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    Yes, its a DTIVO; Having some success with...

    Yes, its a DTIVO; Having some success with PocketDivXEncoder; still looking at a few other tools, as well...

    Thanks folks!
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    Fred, is this still your favorite tool for...

    Fred, is this still your favorite tool for creating files that can be played on the Archos? Dr DIVX seems very easy to use, but I am having terrible audio sync problems and am not sure why...
  112. This is all very interesting; there are a bunch...

    This is all very interesting; there are a bunch of posts here I'd like to respond to, but I chose this one because it is most representive of the issues I care about. The following is a bit of a...
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    InstantCake is a CD that will create the...

    InstantCake is a CD that will create the equivalant of a replacement drive kit (single or dual drive). For Series1 units, it creates a NetReady and LBA48 replacement. For other units, its just the...
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    You can definitely prepare a one or two 250GB...

    You can definitely prepare a one or two 250GB drive set using our LBA48 CD (or InstantCake). Note that version 3.1.0c of the software is imminent, and if/when it downloads to your unit, you will...
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    update on InstantCake

    Here's the status of InstantCake.

    Last Summer, we halted the Beta because people weren't behaving like it was a Beta and were abusing our shopping cart.
    We had about 100 registrants who we...
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    I think what I said was don't use drives greater...

    I think what I said was don't use drives greater than 137GB unless you plan on using the kernel replacement.

    Once again, for anyone else that may be reading this thread. THIS IS NOT FOR SERIES2.
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    You can use the disk to create drives for Series2...

    You can use the disk to create drives for Series2 units, but don't use drives greater than 137GB and certainly don't attempt to copy the kernels.

    The details are here:
    ...
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    Cool. No such thing as too easy; we'll make it...

    Cool. No such thing as too easy; we'll make it even easier.

    Stay tuned!
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    LBA48 Boot CD available for Series1 TiVo

    OK folks, this is the first release of an ongoing project. LBA48 support for Series1 systems (DirecTiVo and Standalone units). This release utilizes kernels compiled by Todd Miller on the AVSforum...
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    We do not think preventing updates is the right...

    We do not think preventing updates is the right thing to do; disrupting the relationship between TiVo and its customers can cause more problems that it solves.

    We have always been VERY clear about...
  121. Easier said then done... You can't just walk into...

    Easier said then done... You can't just walk into Fry's and pick up a TiVo replacement power supply that fits in the same box but yields more power.... Also, its dangerous to handle unshielded power...
  122. Much appreciated... Thx... Yes, its basically an...

    Much appreciated... Thx... Yes, its basically an 'insurance policy' for those who are nervous. I don't think it makes a huge difference to have one of these devices. But, it does reduce the draw on...
  123. OK guys, here's the gig on SmartStart. The only...

    OK guys, here's the gig on SmartStart. The only reason we developed it is because one of our competitors was generating lots of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) as to whether it was actually SAFE...
  124. Well, unfortunately, I'm not at liberty to tell...

    Well, unfortunately, I'm not at liberty to tell you the details of the discussion I had with TiVo's lawyers several years ago.

    However, this is the first time the issue of 'aggregation' has been...
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    If you want to get personal about it, I'll point...

    If you want to get personal about it, I'll point out that it is you who don't have a clue. And unfortunately, its not funny. Its unfortunate that ignorant an malicious people like yourself are...
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    Re: looks like I won my argument hm

    Well, you haven't. Just because you don't understand the GPL, doesn't mean you've won your argument.'

    And to expand on that, for those of you who still don't get it; the last point made by...
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    I've not implied either of the two aforementioned...

    I've not implied either of the two aforementioned things; so once again, Raj, you are arguing with yourself.

    And while I won't disagree completely with the third statement you've made, the fact...
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    The TiVo software components are not "merely...

    The TiVo software components are not "merely aggregated" - they are not easily separable from the modified work on the distribution. The TiVo unit itself will not operate without them, and the...
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    That would fit into the category of "mere...

    That would fit into the category of "mere aggregation" if that is what you are trying to say.
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    We have the right to distribute it because...

    We have the right to distribute it because they've distributed their works on the same medium as GPL software. That is the only reason we have the right. And I've clearly stated it in practically...
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    Well it appears to be very black and white to you...

    Well it appears to be very black and white to you too. However, GPL is clearly does indicate that distribution rights are passed along to the licensee.

    This is counter-intuitive when compared to...
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    My view is that redistribution of the entire TiVo...

    My view is that redistribution of the entire TiVo volume is permissable under the GPL.

    TiVo does not have to reveal their source, as their separate works are not released under the GPL. Because...
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    read this, too:

    And if you read the dialog here, which discusses the GPL and LGPL in a few different contexts, you will see that there is differentation between 'distribution rights' and 'falling under the GPL'...
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    I agree, the modified work is the underlying OS. ...

    I agree, the modified work is the underlying OS. But the sentence goes on to discuss the distribution of seperate works along with it. And you cannot bring a proprietary piece of software under...
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    grrr... never said that. and around we go again....

    grrr... never said that. and around we go again.

    Once again, here is the excerpt, VERBATIM, from the GPL:

    "These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of...
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    But its the distribution of that modified work...

    But its the distribution of that modified work along with separate works that is the issue here. The GPL is specific in stating that in that case, the licensee receives the rights to distribution as...
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    let me be clear on something

    InstantCake and the 137GB issue are two completely different things.

    InstantCake is a product designed to make it easier for folks to upgrade their TiVo systems. A lot of hard work was put into...
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    Can't tell where the sarcasm begins and/or ends...

    Can't tell where the sarcasm begins and/or ends here... Sorry to those who thought the +137GB support would be in there; we had no intentions of misleading anyone...

    Thx,
    Lou
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    Sorry if you were under the impression that >...

    Sorry if you were under the impression that > 137GB support was part of this. We never said it would be, although we would have liked it to be. Unfortunately, we'll have to do that as a separate...
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    Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean...

    Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean I've twisted it. I will no longer respond to any of your comments or jabs in this thread.

    Of course, you will interpret this to mean you are...
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    This is the verbiage from the GPL: ---- ...

    This is the verbiage from the GPL:

    ----

    "These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably...
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    Then you should read the GPL once again;...

    Then you should read the GPL once again; redistribution is allowed. The same thing applies to the RedHat and SuSE distributions, if in fact, the original work is released under the GPL.
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    My only claim is that we have the legal right to...

    My only claim is that we have the legal right to distribute the software, as specifically indicated by the GPL. TiVo's separate works are distributed as part of the whole, which is inclusive of the...
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    No, and I have not contradicted myself, in fact,...

    No, and I have not contradicted myself, in fact, I've been very consistent in my argument; it is you that continue to shift your arguments, as you've done yet again.

    What I said (how can you not...
  145. Originally posted by raj2001 [B]...

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by raj2001
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    cwingert - i appreciate your comments; i almost agree with what you are saying, but to take it a step further, i think it has more to with money, and...
  146. Yes, it should. And licensees of it are entitled...

    Yes, it should. And licensees of it are entitled to the source. Here's the rub... we don't have it. We are trying to get it from our contractor. We'll have it soon. And we are going to release...
  147. Finally! This could certainaly be the basis...

    Finally!

    This could certainaly be the basis of disagreement here, however it is our interpretation (and the interpretation of our lawyers) that this is not a case of 'mere aggregation' due the...
  148. It is you who are continuing to shift the...

    It is you who are continuing to shift the argument.

    Several hours ago, you accused me of violating TiVo's copyrights by distributing their software. I've given you plenty of reasons why this...
  149. These are two things I disagree with, and I am...

    These are two things I disagree with, and I am beginning to think I was right all along. (Sorry, no credit is now due to you :) )


    You are still wrong.


    So you're saying that when you...
  150. Thanks for giving credit where it is due. Too...

    Thanks for giving credit where it is due. Too bad that didn't appear in any of your postings on the AVSforum.

    As for some of your other comments, some responses:

    1) if anyone could manufacture...
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