I've read threw this thread a couple time now and unless I'm a crack head I havn't seen an answer to this? For some reason after I installed the update its not starting with root set at /etc/root. I made the change and it still goes to / I am using telnet if that matters? Any way I can get those alias' to start up another way? Also I installed xPlusz and everything seems to work except ftp. It worked before I installed it now I have to manually start it from the prompt. its in the path too so I can type tivoftp from anywhere and it'll start, woudn't think xPlusz would have a prob with it. Thanks in advance.