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    Too Late to Purchase HR10-250 - Updated

    With the constant low prices of HDTV's, we have purchased one (2 actually) Would it be considered a waste of money at this point in the game to purchase a USED HR10-250 to keep Tivo? I've seen a few friends newer DVR's and just cringe at the thought of losing Tivo.... Is it a waste of time/money at this point? I have enjoyed the all the benefits of my 3 other Tivos in my home...

    Thanks
    Last edited by CrimsnTide; 06-25-2007 at 02:02 PM. Reason: Updated

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    With the constant low prices of HDTV's, we have purchased one (2 actually) Would it be considered a waste of money at this point in the game to purchase a USED HR10-250 to keep Tivo? I've seen a few friends newer DVR's and just cringe at the thought of losing Tivo.... Is it a waste of time/money at this point? I have enjoyed the all the benefits of my 4 other Tivos in my home..
    There are only a few DirecTV HDTV channels at the moment, and any new ones they add will not be received by the HR10-250.

    The HR10-250 can be great for OTA HDTV. Its sensitivity is on a par with more recent tuners, but it is relatively poor at multi-path rejection and can require a lot of antenna-fiddling if your location has that problem.

    Obviously a big advantage is that the HR10-250 fits well into a hacked DTivo/SA Tivo home network.

    I have three HR10-250s in my home and am very happy with them.

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    There are reports that the HR10's will be useless for watching DirecTV HD programming by the end of the year. Personally, I have 4 SD DirecTiVos and an HR20. The HR20 has a faster UI than the DirecTiVos. MRV on the HR20 would be nice. A way to switch to the program on the other tuner would be nice. Other than that, the biggest problem with the HR20 is my daughter-in-law comes over and tunes it to Lifetime Movie Network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlainBill View Post
    There are reports that the HR10's will be useless for watching DirecTV HD programming by the end of the year
    If these are the same reports I've heard, the source is a DirecTV CSR. I cannot even imagine a more suspect source.

    DirecTV recently dropped the lifetime DVR line item on my bill and started charging me $5.99 a month.

    I called DirecTV today. There is no such thing as lifetime DVR service. There may or may not have been a Tivo lifetime some years ago but I would have to call Tivo about that. DirecTV currently has no contract or relationship with Tivo.

    With three more calls, CSR roullette, and an hour or so of my time on hold, I had my problem solved, but this is typical of DirecTV CSR knowledge in the Murdoch era.

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    So, I went ahead and a got a HR10. With that, I've got a few questions maybe someone can give me some advice on. Current setup:

    DirecTV package = Basic + HBO + Sports (FSN etc.) My contract/obligation ENDED 04/07 - 3 year customer w/autopay
    4 rooms with DirecTV
    3 out of 4 with DirecTV Tivos ("upgraded", and networked )
    2 newly acquired Panasonic Plasma's (HDTV capable)
    1 HR10-250 coming (not online - yet)

    I am looking at possibly hooking up the HR10 (after upgrading) and replacing the non-Tivo receiver, so it looks like I will be paying for HD programming

    Here are some questions I have:

    1) What kind of "Package" should I be asking for? Maybe Customer Retention?

    2)Should I ask to get the HR20 with a NEW dish? (Looking for BEST deal)

    3) Since I will have the HR10 ready in a week or so, is it worth telling them NOW it will be put into the system?

    4) Is there ADDITIONAL costs for 2 HD Receivers?

    5) Is there ADDITIONAL costs for Tivo programming AND DirecTV's DVR Programming? (I don't even know if D* has a DVR program charge like I'm paying with/for Tivo.)

    6)I have two feeds running to all 3 of my Tivos for dual tuners. Do I have to run any more cable for HD?

    7) If "Multiswitch" is required, is it powered? (I currently have a 3x8 Terk powered. the power comes from a transformer type plug (110v) and is ran through a Coax line)
    (7a) Any chance that I will be able to use this power setup if needed?

    Thanks -

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    So, I went ahead and a got a HR10. With that, I've got a few questions maybe someone can give me some advice on. Current setup:

    DirecTV package = Basic + HBO + Sports (FSN etc.) My contract/obligation ENDED 04/07 - 3 year customer w/autopay
    4 rooms with DirecTV
    3 out of 4 with DirecTV Tivos ("upgraded", and networked )
    2 newly acquired Panasonic Plasma's (HDTV capable)
    1 HR10-250 coming (not online - yet)

    I am looking at possibly hooking up the HR10 (after upgrading) and replacing the non-Tivo receiver, so it looks like I will be paying for HD programming

    Here are some questions I have:

    1) What kind of "Package" should I be asking for? Maybe Customer Retention?
    There are two issues here. First is HD programming, second is the HD receiver. HD programming is $10 / month.

    "Standard" price for the HR20-700 receiver is $299 + $20 shipping. This includes a new 5 lnb dish and free 'standard' installation. Your installation will require a multiswitch, they will install a WB68 at no cost. Discounts are available, see the thread 'Decisions, Decisions' in this forum for more details.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    2)Should I ask to get the HR20 with a NEW dish? (Looking for BEST deal)
    You must have an oval dish to get HD programming (and a 4x8 or better multiswitch). Unless you can get one free through craigslist, you might as well let DirecTV give it to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    3) Since I will have the HR10 ready in a week or so, is it worth telling them NOW it will be put into the system?
    I would say call them NOW. As noted above, the HR10 will not get HD programming with the present dish/multiswitch.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    4) Is there ADDITIONAL costs for 2 HD Receivers?
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    5) Is there ADDITIONAL costs for Tivo programming AND DirecTV's DVR Programming? (I don't even know if D* has a DVR program charge like I'm paying with/for Tivo.)
    You pay one $6 monthly DVR charge, which covers all DirecTiVos and DirecTV DVRs.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    6)I have two feeds running to all 3 of my Tivos for dual tuners. Do I have to run any more cable for HD?
    No. But I would advise running a second line to the non-Tivo.

    In simple terms, DirecTV's 'Standard Installation' is a joke. The upgrade includes up to 120 feet of cable free, however this only includes the first ten feet inside the room. So it the TV is 12 feet from the point where they come through the wall, they will charge you for the last two feet. The minimum 'non-standard installation' charge is $35. The local installer LIVES on those 'non-standard installation' charges. Unless your non-tivo receiver is against an outside wall, they WILL figure out how to charge you to hook up a second cable.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    7) If "Multiswitch" is required, is it powered? (I currently have a 3x8 Terk powered. the power comes from a transformer type plug (110v) and is ran through a Coax line)
    The WB68 is not powered.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsnTide View Post
    (7a) Any chance that I will be able to use this power setup if needed?

    Thanks -
    You're welcome.

    By the way, HDTV ROCKS!!!

    PlainBill
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    "You cannot teach a man anything. You can only help him find it for himself." Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

    HR20-700 with 2 TB, HR22-100, HR22-100, HR22-100, HR23-100 all running 0x5cd and networked.

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    DirecTV had the right to continue guide data service even after the contract expired. What they got with a renewal was continued support of the software including bug fixes.

    If a CSR tells you that the lifetime service has expired, find a different CSR as they are talking through their hat.
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