Chicago locals gone on 6.2a at 5am

[dwellar]

At 5 am Wednesday the Chicago NBC ABC CBS locals went dark. Attributed to DTVguide data format in other sites and seemingly being rolled out in various markets. I will really hate to lose MRV. I wonder what has been introduced to the data stream (guide data?) so many months/years after 6.4came out that would just now mess up 6.2a? Call me paranoid. I think this is a way to force us off of 6.2a or on to other units that can do "MRV".

[stevel]

DirecTV doesn't give a damn about people running old versions. They changed the guide data because they had a business need to do so, and provided a free software update to deal with it. It's unfortunate that TiVo stripped out the MRV code from that update, but that's life. I'm just astonished that they waited this long to actually make the data change.

[KyooMac]

I would hate to lose MRV also, but is there a way to upgrade to 6.4? I'd rather lose MRV than lease a new HD box from DTV since I still have a SD TV and am not in a position to buy a new one.

[stevel]

If the slices are in your MFS database you can install those. I also read that DirecTV has asked TiVo to make 6.4a available again - not sure if that has happened yet. This thread gives the general method for upgrading in place and preserving hacks (not MRV), but you will have to locate the appropriate patches for 6.4a.

[zardano]

I've been thinking about a way to preserve 6.2a on the alternate partition and upgrade to 6.4a on the active partition. When I upgrade, it will flip the root and install 6.4a on the alternate and make it the active (right now 6/7 are my actives with 6.2a, so 6.4a will end up on 3/4). After upgrading, will 6/7 still have 6.2a with all my hacks in place? Would it then be possible to boot back into 6.2a by simply setting the bootpage parameter to make the root /dev/hda7 and flipping the bootpage with "bootpage -f /dev/hda" to make it boot from 6/7?

If so, I could presumably leave one tivo on 6.2a, and the other could record shows on the local channels with 6.4a, then boot back into 6.2a after recording and transfer those shows to the other 6.2a box using MRV. I basically do this now (without the reboots) because there are too many show conflicts during primetime, so I have one box dedicated to recording major network shows on the local channels and the other handles everything else. This method would work for me as long as 6.2a still gets most of the guide data except a few locals. Thanks.

[w2kr]

Does anyone know where the tivoapp patches are for 6.4a?

[zardano]

Does anyone know where the tivoapp patches are for 6.4a?

This post is the best I've found so far...not sure if there's been an update to NutKase's superpatch-67all, but crashHD's script in the link will work for now.

Still hoping someone can comment on whether I can still boot into 6.2a on the old, now alternate partition by simply changing the boot parms to that partition and then flipping the bootpage? I'm pretty sure it would work, but I'd rather not do something stupid and have to remove the drive from the tivo to fix stuff, so I'm looking for some assurance that it will be OK to try. Thanks.

[w2kr]

Wouldn't it be great if whatever fixes the local problem on 6.4a could simply be copied to our 6.2a TiVos?
I'd love to just copy one file instead of going the upgrade route

[zardano]

Yeah, I've thought about that too, but it's not going to happen. What's really annoying is that so far, 6.4a has only recovered some of my local channels (FOX, PBS, and spanish channels)...ABC, CBS, and NBC are still blacked out. I'm hoping after the box has some time to acquire more guide data these other channels will show up too...

[zardano]

So I tried flipping back to 6.2a on the hda7 partition by using bootpage -P to set the root to /dev/hda7 and then running a bootpage -f to flip it, but when I booted back in, I got an endless reboot cycle. This was at the end of the bootlog from my serial connection:

PokeFirewallPort: Poking hole through firewall at port 2190, protocol tcp
Illegal read at 00000064
do_page_fault #2: sending signal 11 to tcphonehome(163)
$0 : 00000000 0000ffff 7fff68f0 5ee9d954 5ee9d8c4 00000064 5ee9db24 00000000
$8 : 00000001 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 80c4f8fc 00000010 00000003 8014ed34
$16: 5ee9d8c4 00000000 7fff7c44 00000000 00403060 5ef2d468 00000000 100b63b8
$24: 00000000 0139b9a8                   1006dc40 7fff68a0 7f5ff7f0 00727ba4
Hi : 00000000
Lo : 00000003
epc  : 0139b9d0    Not tainted
Status: a001fc13
Cause : 00000008
       800c0570 800c058c 800c48a4 800c4bf8 800c6a9c 
       0139b9d0 00727ba4 00673574 0066c474 0066c858 00612ec8 00403090 2acc13fc
      
Tmk Fatal Error: Thread tcphonehome <163> strayed!
pc 0x139b9d0 status 0xa001fc13 cause 0x000008 bva 00000000 hi 00000000 lo 0x0000
03
R00 0x00000000  R01 0x0000ffff  R02 0x7fff68f0  R03 0x5ee9d954  
R04 0x5ee9d8c4  R05 0x00000064  R06 0x5ee9db24  R07 0x00000000  
R08 0x00000001  R09 0xffffffff  R10 0x00000000  R11 0x00000000  
R12 0x80c4f8fc  R13 0x00000010  R14 0x00000003  R15 0x8014ed34  
R16 0x5ee9d8c4  R17 0x00000000  R18 0x7fff7c44  R19 0x00000000  
R20 0x00403060  R21 0x5ef2d468  R22 0x00000000  R23 0x100b63b8  
R24 0x00000000  R25 0x0139b9a8  R26 0x00000010  R27 0x00000000  
R28 0x1006dc40  R29 0x7fff68a0  R30 0x7f5ff7f0  R31 0x00727ba4  
F00 0xffffffffffffffff  F02 0xffffffffffffffff  
F04 0xffffffffffffffff  F06 0xffffffffffffffff  
F08 0xffffffffffffffff  F10 0xffffffffffffffff  
F12 0xffffffffffffffff  F14 0xffffffffffffffff  
F16 0xffffffffffffffff  F18 0xffffffffffffffff  
F20 0xffffffffffffffff  F22 0xffffffffffffffff  
F24 0xffffffffffffffff  F26 0xffffffffffffffff  
F28 0xffffffffffffffff  F30 0xffffffffffffffff  
csr 00000000 eir 0x005410
Paste the following into a shell to get a backtrace...

bt -t /tvbin/tivoapp <<END_OF_BT
  read 0x2aaa8000 /lib/ld.so.1
  read 0x2ab04000 /lib/libutil.so.1
  read 0x2ab48000 /lib/libdl.so.2
  read 0x2ab8c000 /lib/libpthread.so.0
  read 0x2abe8000 /lib/libm.so.6
  read 0x2acb0000 /lib/libc.so.6
  0x0139b9d0 0x00727ba4 0x00673574 0x0066c474 0x0066c858 0x00612ec8 0x00403090 
  0x2acc13fc 
END_OF_BT

Tmk Fatal Error: Thread tcphonehome <163>: unexpected signal 11
flushing ide devices: hda 
Restarting system.

So apparently, the upgrade process to 6.4a does something to the old partition that prevents it from booting afterwards. I hooked the drive up to a computer and booted into MFSLive to switch the root back to /dev/hda4 and flipped the root back so now it's booting into 6.4a again. Is there any way to work a dual-boot system like I'm after with 6.2a on one partition and 6.4a on the other, and easily flip back and forth?

[stevel]

I think that there is an irreversible data change in the MFS partition when you change the version.

[dwellar]

Updated to 6.4a using slices (don't remember where I got them). Had to clear data and to-do list in order for the Chicago locals to return. Fairly certain they will not return otherwise. Once locals go away, whatever made them go away is stuck in the guide/to-do data. You need to purge that.