Can a TivoHD play copy protected content from a Tivo Premiere?

[mitkraft]

I just switched from a DTV HR10-250 to Comcast with 2 Tivo Premieres. One of my biggest desires is to extract shows for archive and one-the-go playback on my various devices. I was so excited to see how well Tivo desktop works in this regard but was very disappointed when I tried yesterday to extract a show recorded from HBO to find that it was copy protected and not downloadable.

My understanding is that development is underway for things like encryption disable on the Premiere/series4 but isn't there yet. Is that correct?

Would I be able to buy a TiVoHD and use MRV to transfer a recording from the Tivo Premiere and then extract it (assuming the HD was hacked to disable encryption)? Obviously I could just record the content on the TivoHD in the first place but I'm curious about this capability also.

Also, can anyone tell me why I would NOT want to get a TivoHD and return one of my Premieres (I'm still in my 30 day trial period)?

Thanks!

[Soapm]

Won't work, as long as it's recorded as copy protected it won't transfer. However, if you hack the TivoHD you can disable the encryption then record the show again since it's on HBO.

[mitkraft]

I did some reading after posting the question and I thought that would be the answer. So is there anything I'd miss if I returned one of my 2 premiere and got and HD instead?

[philhu]

I did some reading after posting the question and I thought that would be the answer. So is there anything I'd miss if I returned one of my 2 premiere and got and HD instead?

That is what I do. I have a tivoHD, hacked with CCI disabled.

I use it to record items that are set to 'Record once', ie, protected.

From my Premiere4, I can see when and if recorded, by looking in 'My Shows' at the bottom.

When I see something there on the TivoHD, I transfer it to the Premiere4

Only problem is you cannot delete the item on the TivoHD, unless you actually go to the TivoHD unlike premiere to premiere searching.

[Soapm]

Only problem is you cannot delete the item on the TivoHD, unless you actually go to the TivoHD unlike premiere to premiere searching.

If it's not set to keep until I delete it should take care of itself...

[jkozee]

Only problem is you cannot delete the item on the TivoHD, unless you actually go to the TivoHD unlike premiere to premiere searching.

Or you can run xfer_delete.tcl on the THD. This will move the show to the deleted folder once the show transfers successfully.

[Dave20042004]

Or you can run xfer_delete.tcl on the THD. This will move the show to the deleted folder once the show transfers successfully.

jkozee... So, you run this once and it stays active until a reboot?
Dave

[jkozee]

Dave20042004,

Yes, it is intended to be left running. I just looked at the notes, and it still mentions running the script from test.conf, which was appropriate for the C versio, but not for the tcl version. I run it by creating a custom file (/etc/rc.d/StageF_ApplicationLaunch/rc.Sequence_250.CustomHacks.sh), with the following:

#############################################################################
#
#   Custom Hacks that we want run immediately after the tivoapp is running
#
#############################################################################

#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
# Start the delete when transfer completes program
#++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
if [ -f /hack/bin/xfer_delete.tcl ]
  then
        /hack/bin/xfer_delete.tcl -l
fi

[jkozee]

Hmmm, looks like I may have introduced a bug in the version 1.5 update. I'll take a look and update the release accordingly.

[philhu]

Or you can run xfer_delete.tcl on the THD. This will move the show to the deleted folder once the show transfers successfully.

Hmmmmm

I didn't know or forgot about xfer_delete.tcl. Cool. I'll have to read up on other hacks for THD.

[jkozee]

I have updated xfer_delete.tcl to fix the bug that was introduced in version 1.5

[rabi]

I read that it is not possible to use a 2TB HD in a Series 3 Model TCD652160
I read that 1TB HD are the way to go.
Do u have a specific model and type of HD that I should use ?

[unitron]

I read that it is not possible to use a 2TB HD in a Series 3 Model TCD652160
I read that 1TB HD are the way to go.
Do u have a specific model and type of HD that I should use ?

As long as you're running version 11.0k or the recently released 11.0m, you can run a 2TB in any of the three Series 3 platform models.

I like the WD20EURS.

Especially when newegg or Amazon have them on sale for under $100.

It's more complicated than just taking out the old drive and putting in the new one though.

You'll need a PC running Windows XP or later, and the program WinMFS, and you'll need a way to hook the current drive in that 652 and the new drive to the PC, preferably at the same time.

If you answer, I'll tell you the details.